[Az-Geocaching] Log Volume I

Jerry Nelson listserv@azgeocaching.com
Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:04:21 -0700


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MessageI see how this is a difficult choice.  We all know that one of =
the enjoyments of finding a cache is to read old logs. I'd say that most =
of the time it would be better to leave old log books in the cache =
except where the chance of losing them is unusually high or they have =
unusual value.  Mark them as "Archived--write logs in other book" or =
something like that. Even if it was eventually plundered at least a few =
more would be able to read it.  There certainly are exceptions and the =
final choice should be with the cache owner.  He or she has a right to =
preserve the history of his own efforts.  At minimum a note might be =
placed at the beginning of the new book indicating the first had been =
removed.

Cindy suggested that we someday hold an event cache where everyone =
brings old log books to view.  Maybe after many years there will be a =
National Museum of Geocaching.  Shelly could be invited to be curator.

Jerry
Offtrail

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  Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:28 PM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Log Volume I


  For a change I have a question.

  We currently have "Dogcacher" on the Disabled List. It was reported =
that the container was rusting and the log book was filled, both of =
which are true. When we replace the cache, do we get to keep the full =
log book at home, or should we return it to the cache along with a new =
book?

  I'm inclined to keep it. Why? Imperial Eagle's first find of the cache =
at 2 in the morning (Darren, we hope you're well). Or how about this =
excerpt, just a year and three days ago: "1st of many, hopefully!" You =
got that right, RopingTheWind! Why would I want to risk notes like that =
to theft or plunder?

  At the same time, returning the log book to the cache lets other =
finders share them as well.  But do finders read all the log entries? I =
don't think that's the case. And inevitably, someone will find a blank =
page in the old book, and post their now-out-of-sequence entry there.

  I don't think I've ever seen the issue discussed before. I'm open to =
anyone's thoughts.

  Steve
  Team Tierra Buena
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I see how this is a difficult =
choice.&nbsp;&nbsp;We=20
all know that one of the enjoyments of finding a cache is to read old =
logs. I'd=20
say that most of the time it would be better to leave old log books in =
the cache=20
except where the chance of losing them is unusually high or =
they&nbsp;have=20
unusual value.&nbsp; Mark them as "Archived--write logs in other book" =
or=20
something like that. Even if it was eventually plundered at least a few =
more=20
would be able to read it.&nbsp; There certainly are exceptions and the =
final=20
choice should be with the cache owner.&nbsp; He or she has a right to =
preserve=20
the history of his own efforts.&nbsp; At minimum a note might be placed =
at the=20
beginning of the new book indicating the first had been =
removed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cindy suggested that we someday hold an =
event cache=20
where everyone brings old log books to view.&nbsp; Maybe after many =
years there=20
will be a National Museum of Geocaching.&nbsp; Shelly could be invited =
to be=20
curator.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Offtrail</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">For =
a change I=20
  have a question.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">We =
currently=20
  have "Dogcacher" on the Disabled List. It was reported that the =
container was=20
  rusting and the log book was filled, both of which are true. When we =
replace=20
  the cache, do we get to keep the full log book at home, or should we =
return it=20
  to the cache along with a new book?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">I'm =
inclined=20
  to&nbsp;keep it.&nbsp;Why? Imperial Eagle's first find of the cache at =
2 in=20
  the morning (Darren, we hope you're well). Or how about this excerpt, =
just a=20
  year and three days ago: "1st of many, hopefully!" You got that right, =

  RopingTheWind! </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua">Why would I want to risk notes like that to =
theft or=20
  plunder?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">At =
the same=20
  time, returning the log book to the cache lets other finders share =
them as=20
  well. &nbsp;But do finders read all the log entries? I don't think =
that's the=20
  case. And inevitably, someone will find a blank page in the old book, =
and post=20
  their now-out-of-sequence entry there.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">I =
don't think=20
  I've ever seen the issue discussed before. I'm open to anyone's=20
  thoughts.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua">Steve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D725471706-21022003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">Team =
Tierra=20
  Buena</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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