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Thu Jan 26 07:58:19 MST 2006
hat=92s very bad juju to do that. ADOT has strict rules that govern the=
Adopt-A-Highway program, requiring that volunteers stay >10=92 away fro=
m the road when picking up trash (of course you can get a little closer =
to pile it up), and median cleanup is expressly forbidden for obvious sa=
fety reasons. Sport Trac/k is asking ADOT to set the hoops up for him, =
but I envision some strong resistance in approval. That=92s what Arpaio=
=92s chain gangs are for. I=92d really rather not read a news story abo=
ut how a Geocacher was smeared across a chunk of asphalt while at a volu=
nteer cleanup event.
=
Take it for what it=92s worth, but with an attitude that would involve r=
ecruiting others with the purpose of violating a policy put in place for=
the safety of those who choose to volunteer their time, is tantamount t=
o blatantly ignoring No Trespassing signs in order to make the short tri=
p to get a cache, or taking an ATV into a wilderness area. Of course yo=
u aren=92t supposed to, and remember that while anyone is out there clea=
ning up trash, you are representing Geocachers, as evidenced by the 2 ve=
ry large signs proclaiming this. I originally signed up for the program=
not only to help maintain a degrading section of highway, but also for =
the PR it brings Geocaching, hoping that in some small way, it would hav=
e an impact on TPTB in creating favorable policy toward Geocaching as a =
whole when that time came. I=92d also hate to see one of my former coll=
eagues (aka Highway Patrol) pulling up and writing citations to cachers =
for being in the median. For safety sake, should it be permitted, a cru=
iser may very well have to block a lane of traffic to create a buffer fo=
r anyone over there once permitted to do so.
=
I would urge anyone considering circumventing the policy on safety to se=
riously reconsider it given the potential ramifications.
=
Brian
Team A.I.
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<html><P>I agree with Brian. Cleaning the median is too dangerous.=
The state has safety standards for those who clean, or work on th=
e highways. </P>
<P>Apryl, we don't know how often the median is cleaned. The media=
n along our stretch of highway has a lot of traffic going to the nearby =
dumps...I'm sure it doesn't take long, after a cleaning, for the me=
dian to collect debris.</P>
<P>Rand </P>
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<P><STRONG>From Apryl:</STRONG></P>
<P>I do understand that however <STRONG>I think that due to the fact tha=
t ADOT can't seem to get the median cleaned it also reflects badly=
on the Geocachers</STRONG>. It's not like there's a sign that proclaims=
that ADOT is responsible for the median only the fact that we're respon=
sible for the trash pickup. </P>
<P>And I understand that Sportrac/k is pursuing this avenue with ADOT bu=
t <STRONG>in the year I've been helping to clean the median it has gotte=
n worse and worse.</STRONG> This just coicides with the fact that ALL th=
e freeways in the Phoenix Metro and surrouding city area's are going to =
heck. </P>
<P>Apryl<BR><BR></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN styl=
e=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That=92s very bad=
juju to do that. ADOT has strict rules that govern the Adopt-A-Hi=
ghway program, requiring that volunteers stay >10=92 away from the ro=
ad when picking up trash (of course you can get a little closer to pile =
it up), and <STRONG>median cleanup is expressly forbidden for obvious sa=
fety reasons</STRONG>. Sport Trac/k is asking ADOT to set the hoop=
s up for him, but I envision some strong resistance in approval. T=
hat=92s what Arpaio=92s chain gangs are for. I=92d really rather n=
ot read a news story about how a Geocacher was smeared across a chunk of=
asphalt while at a volunteer cleanup event.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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e=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nb=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN styl=
e=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Take it for what =
it=92s worth, but with an attitude that would involve recruiting others =
with the purpose of violating a policy put in place for the safety of th=
ose who choose to volunteer their time, is tantamount to blatantly ignor=
ing No Trespassing signs in order to make the short trip to get a cache,=
or taking an ATV into a wilderness area. Of course you aren=92t s=
upposed to, and remember that while anyone is out there cleaning up tras=
h, you are representing Geocachers, as evidenced by the 2 very large sig=
ns proclaiming this. I originally signed up for the program not on=
ly to help maintain a degrading section of highway, but also for the PR =
it brings Geocaching, hoping that in some small way, it would have an im=
pact on TPTB in creating favorable policy toward Geocaching as a whole w=
hen that time came. I=92d also hate to see one of my former collea=
gues (aka Highway Patrol) pulling up and writing citations to cachers fo=
r being in the median. <STRONG>For safety sake, should it be permi=
tted, a cruiser may very well have to block a lane of traffic to create =
a buffer for anyone over there once permitted to do so.</STRONG></SPAN><=
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rge anyone considering circumventing the policy on safety to seriously r=
econsider it given the potential ramifications.</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></=
P>
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