wrote:Wierd,
Them message to the list from Jeff/360 about the Dave Ulmer thing came
yesterday. I saw several responses to it (but not all of them). However, I
never saw the original message until just now. It just hit my inbox. There
are numerous other posts that I havent yet seen. But, I went to the listerv
archives and found them there. I posted a message early today that already
got some responses. I still havent seen my message or any of the responses,
but one or two maybe. The rest I found in the archives as well. Is this an
issue with my Hotmail email account? Or are others missing messages as well?
Just curious.
Scott
Team RTW
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Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden. Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
"Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
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I used to have that a lot with hotmail too, then I switched to another email service.
Roping The Wind <arizcowboy@hotmail.com> wrote:
Wierd,
Them message to the list from Jeff/360 about the Dave Ulmer thing came
yesterday. I saw several responses to it (but not all of them). However, I
never saw the original message until just now. It just hit my inbox. There
are numerous other posts that I havent yet seen. But, I went to the listerv
archives and found them there. I posted a message early today that already
got some responses. I still havent seen my message or any of the responses,
but one or two maybe. The rest I found in the archives as well. Is this an
issue with my Hotmail email account? Or are others missing messages as well?
Just curious.
Scott
Team RTW
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Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking
Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden. Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
"Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
Rudyard Kipling , The Explorer 1898
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com Mon Nov 8 06:51:32 2004
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 23:51:32 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] late messages???
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <418F1774.4010801@Snaptek.com>
Hot mail does suck.... but your problems are more likely caused by the
extended power outage that the server had for half the day Saturday
morning. The server probably came down while trying to deliver the
original message, but before it got to you. That would have caused it
to go into the queue and sit there for quite some time before trying to
attempt another delivery.
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
Roping The Wind wrote:
> Them message to the list from Jeff/360 about the Dave Ulmer thing came
> yesterday. I saw several responses to it (but not all of them). However,
> I never saw the original message until just now. It just hit my inbox.
> There are numerous other posts that I havent yet seen. But, I went to
> the listerv archives and found them there. I posted a message early
> today that already got some responses. I still havent seen my message or
> any of the responses, but one or two maybe. The rest I found in the
> archives as well. Is this an issue with my Hotmail email account? Or are
> others missing messages as well? Just curious.
From listserv@azgeocaching.com Mon Nov 8 17:04:29 2004
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:04:29 -0500
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan satelite problems
Message-ID: <2D62CC1A.27A62033.0013DAD2@aol.com>
I have the Magellan, and Mary has a "Grrrr"-armin. Her Legend worked great for 1 year, then started having issues. I contacted garmin and they suggested downloading the "latest updates". That worked for about .74 of a .78 hike to a cache. fortunately we had my trusty (at the time) Magellan (which is my third one. Mary's is still not working, and mine is now not working, but we found three caches without any gps this weekend. No matter how hard the caching gods try, they can't hold us back.
PS to Damien
I tried deleting everything and I havent had any luck yet. I'm going hunting wednesday so I'll try it on a high peak. thanks.
Cameron
Hey Bud,
Follow these steps and you will be on your way to better satellite karma in
no time!
Step one.... properly dispose of your Magellan model at one of the many
hazardous waste dump off sites that your city sponsors each month.
2. hop in your car and head on down to your nearest sporting goods store
that sells GPS's or for better prices, get on the internet and check out
GPSNOW.com.
3. pick out any Garmin GPS unit... I, as well as some others on this list,
will highly recommend the Garmin GPSMAP 60C or CS. But, any Garmin unit will
do if you are on a budget.
4. Purchase it!
5. Walla! Excellent satellite karma and you are off geocaching again! :)
LOL
From listserv@azgeocaching.com Mon Nov 8 20:52:03 2004
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:52:03 -0500
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan satelite problems
Message-ID: <2507C8E9.64DBBE56.0013DAD2@aol.com>
Well, I just tried my GPS one more time before I was going to call magellan CS, and the damn thing is finding satelites. It went through two sets of batteries over the weekend with no results, and now inside my office it is working. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.
Cameron
From listserv@azgeocaching.com Mon Nov 8 21:35:58 2004
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:35:58 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan satellite problems
Message-ID:
So if I read your message, the megellan works inside but not outside?? Do
you have many caches in your office?
Barry
BBUDCAM@aol.com
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sent by: cc:
az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching. Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan satelite problems
com
Monday November 8, 2004 01:52 PM
Please respond to listserv
Well, I just tried my GPS one more time before I was going to call magellan
CS, and the damn thing is finding satelites. It went through two sets of
batteries over the weekend with no results, and now inside my office it is
working. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.
Cameron
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com Mon Nov 8 21:59:23 2004
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Koch, Dan)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:59:23 -0500
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Who are you??? was:Dave Ulmer is in the Phoen
ix area for the next week!
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Who are you who are so wise in the ways of 'flash mobbing'??? :)
Also, does anyone on this list have a blue mustang with a geocaching license
plate frame and has a kid that plays soccer at Emerald Park near
Gilbert/US-60 on Saturdays? You were parked in front of my mailbox last
weekend... :)
LazyK - Dan
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[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of David
Thompsen
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 7:23 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Dave Ulmer is in the Phoenix area for the next
week!
I seriously doubt, given the very different paths that Geocaching and Dave
Ulmer have taken over the past 3 and a half years, that "flash-mobbing" him
would have any benefit for us or for him.
TEAM 360 wrote:
That's right, you Arizona cachers...Dave Ulmer, the guy who started this
"geocaching thing" with a 5-gallon bucket back in May of 2000, is camped out
in his RV, right here in the Phoenix area for the next week or so!
Can someone say "Ulmer Cache Event Party"????
What do you think, should we just "flashmob" him this weekend and have a big
get-together at his RV? I've got the coords!
Jeff/TEAM 360
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Who are you who are so wise in the ways of 'flash
mobbing'??? :)
Also, does anyone on this list have a blue mustang with a
geocaching license plate frame and has a kid that plays soccer at Emerald Park
near Gilbert/US-60 on Saturdays? You were parked in front of my mailbox
last weekend... :)
LazyK - Dan
I seriously doubt, given the very different paths that Geocaching and
Dave Ulmer have taken over the past 3 and a half years, that "flash-mobbing"
him would have any benefit for us or for him.
TEAM 360
<team360usa@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's right, you Arizona cachers...Dave Ulmer, the guy who started
this "geocaching thing" with a 5-gallon bucket back in May of 2000, is
camped out in his RV, right here in the Phoenix area for the next week or
so!
Can someone say "Ulmer Cache Event Party"????
What do you think, should we just "flashmob" him this weekend and have
a big get-together at his RV? I've got the coords!
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com Mon Nov 8 22:44:06 2004
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan Smith)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:44:06 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Pepsi product for sale
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The company I work for,has now until Thanksgiving Thursday will allow me =
to purchase as many cases of soda (Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, Mtn Dew)(only =
flavors) as I want for $3 a case. I asked if my friends and associates =
could participate and they said OK but I will need it prepaid for Friday =
after Thanksgiving pick up.
I will bring some to the Tucson Event, as a trade item.
Regan the Fish if Team Evil Fish
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com Mon Nov 8 20:22:38 2004
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Randy Kinkel)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:22:38 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Invitation-- come by for a portrait--or just come by!
References:
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Hi, fellow cachers--
Not really a caching "event"... but here's an event you might be interested
in at my Art Gallery where you can get a really cool picture of you and your
caching Dog or Cat (or other animal friend)-- Stephanie is a very talented
artist/photographer from Trunk Space Gallery who will "shoot" you and your
pet for a very reasonable price. You should email to get an appointment,
though.
Or, if you're not interested in the pictures, just come for the easy, Grab
'n' Go cache I placed near the property, check out some of the fine art and
crafts inside... heck, you could just drop by and say Hi on the way to other
downtown caches, or while checking out the other galleries in the area!
anyway, here's the info:
Artwalkin' the Dog
N 33° 27.423 W 112° 04.205
GCKVEV
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Red Dog Gallery, 812 N. 3rd St, Phoenix, 85004
Presents: Portraits in Fur: Pets and their People--
Saturday, December 4th, 10am-4pm!
bring your pet and be photographed by Trunk Space's very own,
Stephanie Carrico; receive a package of photos just in time for holiday
gift-giving-- and your photo may even be included in the upcoming "Animals"
exhibit at Red Dog!!
Print packages as low as $40.
Contact: reddogart@fastmail.fm for your photo sitting appointment.
--Mozartman
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com Mon Nov 8 23:03:23 2004
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:03:23 -0500
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan satellite problems
Message-ID: <1B122E7D.7AFBF65A.0013DAD2@aol.com>
Well there is one I can reach from in my office, but they wont let me have credit for it.;)
it (my gps) is working in and out now.
From brian at Snaptek.com Wed Nov 10 14:02:24 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Wed Nov 10 14:02:56 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
Message-ID: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com>
Anyone out there?
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
From andy at britishideas.com Wed Nov 10 14:03:40 2004
From: andy at britishideas.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Wed Nov 10 14:03:53 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID:
Yep.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Cluff
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:02 PM
To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
Anyone out there?
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
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From jscotti at pirl.lpl.Arizona.EDU Wed Nov 10 14:04:34 2004
From: jscotti at pirl.lpl.Arizona.EDU (Jim Scotti)
Date: Wed Nov 10 14:04:39 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID:
Read you 5 by 5!
Jim.
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Brian Cluff wrote:
> Anyone out there?
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
> ____________________________________________________________
> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
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>
Jim Scotti
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/
From brian at Snaptek.com Wed Nov 10 14:09:17 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Wed Nov 10 14:09:48 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <4192837D.3030303@Snaptek.com>
Thanks...
HOLY COW, you guys are quick... not to mention the new server managed to
send out the mail to everyone in a fraction of the time of the old
server.... I should have changed out the server a long time ago.
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
On 11/10/04 14:04, Jim Scotti wrote:
> Read you 5 by 5!
>
> Jim.
>
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Brian Cluff wrote:
>
>
>>Anyone out there?
>>
>>Brian Cluff
>>Team Snaptek
>>____________________________________________________________
>>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
>>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
>>
>>Arizona's Geocaching Resource
>>http://www.azgeocaching.com
>>
>
>
> Jim Scotti
> Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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From andy at britishideas.com Wed Nov 10 14:13:26 2004
From: andy at britishideas.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Wed Nov 10 14:13:36 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To: <4192837D.3030303@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID:
I guess having Outlook set to check email every 2 minutes helps.... ;)
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Cluff
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:09 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Test
Thanks...
HOLY COW, you guys are quick... not to mention the new server managed to
send out the mail to everyone in a fraction of the time of the old
server.... I should have changed out the server a long time ago.
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
On 11/10/04 14:04, Jim Scotti wrote:
> Read you 5 by 5!
>
> Jim.
>
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Brian Cluff wrote:
>
>
>>Anyone out there?
>>
>>Brian Cluff
>>Team Snaptek
>>____________________________________________________________
>>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
>>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
>>
>>Arizona's Geocaching Resource
>>http://www.azgeocaching.com
>>
>
>
> Jim Scotti
> Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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>
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>
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From jscotti at pirl.lpl.Arizona.EDU Wed Nov 10 14:15:43 2004
From: jscotti at pirl.lpl.Arizona.EDU (Jim Scotti)
Date: Wed Nov 10 14:15:46 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To: <4192837D.3030303@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID:
I noticed that - I got the message I sent back very quickly compared to the
old server - very nice! I also got a nice "Out of Office" autoreply from one
member.... Have you changed (or are you planning to change) the main
azgeocaching.com webserver machine as well?
Jim.
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Brian Cluff wrote:
> Thanks...
> HOLY COW, you guys are quick... not to mention the new server managed to
> send out the mail to everyone in a fraction of the time of the old
> server.... I should have changed out the server a long time ago.
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
Jim Scotti
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/
From jscotti at pirl.lpl.Arizona.EDU Wed Nov 10 14:17:03 2004
From: jscotti at pirl.lpl.Arizona.EDU (Jim Scotti)
Date: Wed Nov 10 14:17:10 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
p.s. I counted about 6 seconds between hitting send and the e-mail arriving
in my inbox! Wow!
Jim.
Jim Scotti
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/
From brian at Snaptek.com Wed Nov 10 14:27:41 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Wed Nov 10 14:28:13 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <419287CD.8090708@Snaptek.com>
I actually got your reply within 1 minute of sending the original message.
The old server, on a good day, used to take about 20+ minutes to send
out mail to the 200+ people on the list. Now it appears to be able to
send them to everyone in about a minute, and without breaking a sweat...
YEAY!!!
OK, I'll shut up now and let everyone get back to talking about
Geocaching. :)
Brian Cluff
On 11/10/04 14:13, Andrew Ayre wrote:
> I guess having Outlook set to check email every 2 minutes helps.... ;)
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
> Brian Cluff
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:09 PM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Test
>
>
> Thanks...
> HOLY COW, you guys are quick... not to mention the new server managed to
> send out the mail to everyone in a fraction of the time of the old
> server.... I should have changed out the server a long time ago.
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
>
> On 11/10/04 14:04, Jim Scotti wrote:
>
>>Read you 5 by 5!
>>
>>Jim.
>>
>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Anyone out there?
>>>
>>>Brian Cluff
>>>Team Snaptek
>>>____________________________________________________________
>>>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
>>>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
>>>
>>>Arizona's Geocaching Resource
>>>http://www.azgeocaching.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>Jim Scotti
>>Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
>>University of Arizona
>>Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/
>>
>>____________________________________________________________
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>>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
>>
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>>
>
>
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From brian at Snaptek.com Wed Nov 10 14:32:19 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Wed Nov 10 14:32:51 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <419288E3.8070904@Snaptek.com>
On 11/10/04 14:15, Jim Scotti wrote:
> Have you changed (or are you planning to change) the main
> azgeocaching.com webserver machine as well?
No... it's actually a decent machine. Most if any slowness comes from
the HUGE nasty database queries that we are doing to get the stats.
Any speed improvements on the web page side of things will actually from
from code optimizations and caching (not the treasure hunting kind :)
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
From george at customcals.com Wed Nov 10 15:34:29 2004
From: george at customcals.com (George Harris)
Date: Wed Nov 10 15:30:57 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
References:
<419288E3.8070904@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <007f01c4c775$729401e0$b600a8c0@athlon>
No, I didn't get it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Cluff"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Test
> On 11/10/04 14:15, Jim Scotti wrote:
> > Have you changed (or are you planning to change) the main
> > azgeocaching.com webserver machine as well?
>
> No... it's actually a decent machine. Most if any slowness comes from
> the HUGE nasty database queries that we are doing to get the stats.
> Any speed improvements on the web page side of things will actually from
> from code optimizations and caching (not the treasure hunting kind :)
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
> ____________________________________________________________
> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
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>
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>
>
From george at customcals.com Wed Nov 10 15:36:24 2004
From: george at customcals.com (George Harris)
Date: Wed Nov 10 15:32:54 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
References: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <008b01c4c775$b9192370$b600a8c0@athlon>
Just kidding.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Cluff"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:02 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
> Anyone out there?
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
> ____________________________________________________________
> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
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>
> Arizona's Geocaching Resource
> http://www.azgeocaching.com
>
>
From bcasteel at uccinc.net Wed Nov 10 17:40:51 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Wed Nov 10 17:40:55 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
References: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com>
<008b01c4c775$b9192370$b600a8c0@athlon>
Message-ID: <002f01c4c787$186103a0$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Ok, so I'm curious too....how fast will it be.
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Harris"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Test
> Just kidding.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Cluff"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:02 PM
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
>
>
>> Anyone out there?
>>
>> Brian Cluff
>> Team Snaptek
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
>> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
>>
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>> http://www.azgeocaching.com
>>
>>
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>
From bcasteel at uccinc.net Wed Nov 10 17:41:20 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Wed Nov 10 17:41:23 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
References: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com><008b01c4c775$b9192370$b600a8c0@athlon>
<002f01c4c787$186103a0$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Message-ID: <003401c4c787$29b533b0$3401a8c0@tyrael>
13 seconds. Not bad. :)
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Casteel"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Test
> Ok, so I'm curious too....how fast will it be.
>
> Brian
> Team A.I.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Harris"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Test
>
>
>> Just kidding.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brian Cluff"
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:02 PM
>> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
>>
>>
>>> Anyone out there?
>>>
>>> Brian Cluff
>>> Team Snaptek
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
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>>>
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>>> http://www.azgeocaching.com
>>>
>>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
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>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
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>>
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>>
>
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>
From sstringh at stringham-family.org Wed Nov 10 19:10:00 2004
From: sstringh at stringham-family.org (Steven Stringham)
Date: Wed Nov 10 19:07:40 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com>
References: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <4192C9F8.6080202@stringham-family.org>
Yes.
And thank you again for all the effort you put in on our behalf. We do
appreciate it.
So, give us an idea on what was, and what is for the servers. (OS
versions, CPU, Disks, Memory...) It's a geeky question, but, with an 8
year old server, I am curious what it was.
Thanks
Steven Stringham
StringCachers
Brian Cluff wrote:
> Anyone out there?
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
> ____________________________________________________________
> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
>
> Arizona's Geocaching Resource
> http://www.azgeocaching.com
From sstringh at stringham-family.org Wed Nov 10 19:10:00 2004
From: sstringh at stringham-family.org (Steven Stringham)
Date: Wed Nov 10 19:07:44 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com>
References: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <4192C9F8.6080202@stringham-family.org>
Yes.
And thank you again for all the effort you put in on our behalf. We do
appreciate it.
So, give us an idea on what was, and what is for the servers. (OS
versions, CPU, Disks, Memory...) It's a geeky question, but, with an 8
year old server, I am curious what it was.
Thanks
Steven Stringham
StringCachers
Brian Cluff wrote:
> Anyone out there?
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
> ____________________________________________________________
> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
>
> Arizona's Geocaching Resource
> http://www.azgeocaching.com
From brian at Snaptek.com Wed Nov 10 19:21:40 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Wed Nov 10 19:22:13 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Test
In-Reply-To: <4192C9F8.6080202@stringham-family.org>
References: <419281E0.8070200@Snaptek.com>
<4192C9F8.6080202@stringham-family.org>
Message-ID: <4192CCB4.8030202@Snaptek.com>
On 11/10/04 19:10, Steven Stringham wrote:
> And thank you again for all the effort you put in on our behalf. We
> do appreciate it.
No problem.... thanks
> So, give us an idea on what was and what is for the servers. (OS
> versions, CPU, Disks, Memory...) It's a geeky question, but, with an
> 8 year old server, I am curious what it was.
The old server was a Pentium 166 desktop machine with 32 megs of ram,
running Redhat
Linux 5.1 with an 4 gig ide drive.
The new server is a Pentium II 533 (Processor speed really doesn't
matter all the much for what the machine is doing) 1U rack mount server.
It's got a half gig of ram and an 18gig ultra wide SCSI drive. It's
running Debian (Sarge) Linux.
The main things that are improving speed is the vastly increased amounts
of RAM and the hard drive... SCSI is so much nicer to work with when it
comes to email servers than IDE, too bad they charge an arm and a leg
for it. And lastly, I switched to different email server software, and
upgraded the mailing list. We will now be able to get upgrades all the
time. That old version of redhat was such a huge pain to upgrade that I
stopped bothering to unless it was a security problem... which didn't
happen very often at all.
Anyway, Enjoy.
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
From scottsparks1 at mchsi.com Thu Nov 11 01:19:02 2004
From: scottsparks1 at mchsi.com (Scott Sparks)
Date: Thu Nov 11 13:14:26 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Test
Message-ID: <41932076.9040007@mchsi.com>
Brian,
That's great news on the mail server! You know we love you! :-*
Now, on to the stats. ;-) There have been a number of caches not
showing up on the stats page recently. I have 2 dozen that are missing
in the past month alone. Here's a list:
GCJE0Y Where Are the Kids
GCKEWW Fore
GCKT5E Lunch Box cache
GCKVPA Prescott Prize Lincoln Swag Alex Approved
GCKXK3 My $3 Stash Cache
GCKY20 Fred Attends a Family Reunion
GCKV7E Tree of Time
GCKVH7 My Kind of cache 2
GCKTYN Field of Dreams
GCKWTX Birdies
GCKWTP no-name cache
GCKTAD My Favorite Drinking Hole #4
GCKVW4 One In the Hand
GCKWWG Harley's ''Who Let the Dogs Out'' cache
GCKVMP Rubik's Bench
GCKXB8 My Kind of cache 4
GCKVMH Mini Hidden Path
GCKVE8 Bags of True Grit
GCKXPZ Menningen Park
GCKVMR Wallfower
GCKZ7C A Little Bit(e) of Florida
GCKZ7J Camino Viejo
GCKXK9 Solitary Sentinel
GCKVW3 My Kind of cache 3
GCKZ17 The Travel Bug Hiding Hole
GCKWNN Touchdown
Plus these, missing from previous months
GCJ782 Pendulum 4/20/04
GCJ7GJ Squirrelville 4/20/04
GCJ3WH Dobson Lakeside Cache 2 4/20/04
GCJ5CV Saratoga 4/20/04
GCJ9C8 Gecko's Mountain Adventure 4/27/04
GCJ967 Steal Your Face 4/27/04
GCJ6Z4 Gecko's Patriotic Cache 4/28/04
GCJQ82 Team Gecko's Urban Adventure 4/28/04
GCJ4XE What's New 4/28/04
Thanks,
-- Sprocket
GCKVPA
Precott Prize Lincoln swag Alex approved
GCKVPA
Precott Prize Lincoln swag Alex approved
GCKVPA
Precott Prize Lincoln swag Alex approved
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From graldrich at gmail.com Thu Nov 11 13:50:03 2004
From: graldrich at gmail.com (Guy Aldrich)
Date: Thu Nov 11 13:50:15 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Test
In-Reply-To: <41932076.9040007@mchsi.com>
References: <41932076.9040007@mchsi.com>
Message-ID:
Those caches are missing from Azgeocaching .com database!
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 01:19:02 -0700, Scott Sparks wrote:
> Brian,
> That's great news on the mail server! You know we love you! :-*
>
> Now, on to the stats. ;-) There have been a number of caches not showing
> up on the stats page recently. I have 2 dozen that are missing in the past
> month alone. Here's a list:
>
> GCJE0Y Where Are the Kids
> GCKEWW Fore
> GCKT5E Lunch Box cache
> GCKVPA Prescott Prize Lincoln Swag Alex Approved
> GCKXK3 My $3 Stash Cache
> GCKY20 Fred Attends a Family Reunion
> GCKV7E Tree of Time
> GCKVH7 My Kind of cache 2
> GCKTYN Field of Dreams
> GCKWTX Birdies
> GCKWTP no-name cache
> GCKTAD My Favorite Drinking Hole #4
> GCKVW4 One In the Hand
> GCKWWG Harley's ''Who Let the Dogs Out'' cache
> GCKVMP Rubik's Bench
> GCKXB8 My Kind of cache 4
> GCKVMH Mini Hidden Path
> GCKVE8 Bags of True Grit
> GCKXPZ Menningen Park
> GCKVMR Wallfower
> GCKZ7C A Little Bit(e) of Florida
> GCKZ7J Camino Viejo
> GCKXK9 Solitary Sentinel
> GCKVW3 My Kind of cache 3
> GCKZ17 The Travel Bug Hiding Hole
> GCKWNN Touchdown
>
> Plus these, missing from previous months
>
> GCJ782 Pendulum 4/20/04
> GCJ7GJ Squirrelville 4/20/04
> GCJ3WH Dobson Lakeside Cache 2 4/20/04
> GCJ5CV Saratoga 4/20/04
> GCJ9C8 Gecko's Mountain Adventure 4/27/04
> GCJ967 Steal Your Face 4/27/04
> GCJ6Z4 Gecko's Patriotic Cache 4/28/04
> GCJQ82 Team Gecko's Urban Adventure 4/28/04
> GCJ4XE What's New 4/28/04
>
> Thanks,
> -- Sprocket
>
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>
> GCKVPA
> Precott Prize Lincoln swag Alex approved
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From teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net Thu Nov 11 16:35:35 2004
From: teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Thu Nov 11 16:35:49 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Got Pictures?
Message-ID: <000d01c4c847$257e6490$6401a8c0@business>
Anyone have any digital photos from the "Neocachers' Network" event that
they could share? I didn't bring my camera that day (I had a few other
things on my mind :-)). Please email them to me or point me to a URL or
FTP site somewhere. Thanks in advance.
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From azhardman at inficad.com Thu Nov 11 18:53:05 2004
From: azhardman at inficad.com (Steve Burton)
Date: Thu Nov 11 18:53:20 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] TOPO! data file
Message-ID: <41941781.3000507@inficad.com>
Any chance this can be 'fixed' anytime soon? I really enjoyed seeing all
the caches ever existent in AZ. Comes in handy for planning a new hide, too!
Thanks,
Steve
From WEBOWITZ at aol.com Thu Nov 11 19:44:02 2004
From: WEBOWITZ at aol.com (WEBOWITZ@aol.com)
Date: Thu Nov 11 19:44:10 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2055
Message-ID:
Got it in Las Vegas....thanks!
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From evilfish at cox.net Fri Nov 12 04:54:53 2004
From: evilfish at cox.net (Regan Smith)
Date: Fri Nov 12 04:54:32 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Stats and the Cockroach
Message-ID: <001301c4c8ae$6c68f8e0$1b1c0244@ph.cox.net>
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From scottsparks1 at mchsi.com Fri Nov 12 22:38:20 2004
From: scottsparks1 at mchsi.com (scottsparks1@mchsi.com)
Date: Fri Nov 12 22:38:29 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
Message-ID: <111320040538.11238.5a90@mchsi.com>
Who knows of a good place to buy a GPS (not on-line) that has a large selection
of both Garmin and Magellan models and is located in the East Valley?
-- Sprocket
From maillade at cox.net Fri Nov 12 23:07:48 2004
From: maillade at cox.net (Debbie)
Date: Fri Nov 12 23:07:54 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
References: <111320040538.11238.5a90@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <000501c4c947$19ebc7c0$6501a8c0@micron827gs6tz>
Bronco One??
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From:
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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
> Who knows of a good place to buy a GPS (not on-line) that has a large
> selection
> of both Garmin and Magellan models and is located in the East Valley?
>
> -- Sprocket
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From bcasteel at uccinc.net Sat Nov 13 01:13:01 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sat Nov 13 01:13:10 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
References: <111320040538.11238.5a90@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <004301c4c958$97e8fbf0$3401a8c0@tyrael>
I second BroncoOne. The problem seems to be that places like Best Buy only
carry one brand, and the store down the street carries the 'other' brand,
but neither carry a decent variety. Aside from that, your best bet is
really to go online to someplace like gpsnow.com if all else fails locally.
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
> Who knows of a good place to buy a GPS (not on-line) that has a large
> selection
> of both Garmin and Magellan models and is located in the East Valley?
>
> -- Sprocket
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From cordh at mchsi.com Sat Nov 13 06:46:02 2004
From: cordh at mchsi.com (cordh@mchsi.com)
Date: Sat Nov 13 06:46:21 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
In-Reply-To: <111320040538.11238.5a90@mchsi.com>
References: <111320040538.11238.5a90@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <200411130646.03016.cordh@mchsi.com>
On Friday 12 November 2004 22:38, scottsparks1@mchsi.com wrote:
> Who knows of a good place to buy a GPS (not on-line) that has a large
> selection of both Garmin and Magellan models and is located in the East
> Valley?
>
> -- Sprocket
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Walmart has several models of both brands on the lower end of scale; e.g.
mostly black and white displays. I busted the screen on my Magellan
Sporttrak Pro yesterday and went over and bought a Magellan Meridan Gold.
Find that lately Magellan gives one more for the money. Fry Electronics in
Tempe also carries a good selection.
From arizcowboy at hotmail.com Sat Nov 13 12:23:19 2004
From: arizcowboy at hotmail.com (Roping The Wind)
Date: Sat Nov 13 12:24:09 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
Message-ID:
I would highly recommend NOT going to Bronco One. Besides, purchasing a GPS
online will result in a MUCH better price on any unit you would think of
purchasing. I shopped around alot of places for the Garmin GPSMAP 60C. It
was easy to see that GPSnow.com had the absolutely best prices, by far...
than any other online store... and MUCH cheaper than you could find it in
the local stores. I checked around for prices on my old Etrex Legend and
they are still way cheaper than the prices in store. I think at the time
GPSnow wanted maybe $149 for it while local places wanted $199. That is a
huge difference in price, IMHO. Also, you will have to pay sales tax if you
buy locally. Often times, online stores will give free or nearly free
shipping rates. GPSnow has ridiculously low shipping rates... AND it will be
to your door in 2 days. Unless you need one right this second, I am sure you
could wait a couple of days for the huge savings in price. I could, for
anything! I find, in reference to electronics anyways, that almost anything
is way cheaper purchased online than in a local store. I alos find prices
from reputable online stores are still cheaper than prices on 'new' items
found on Ebay. Alot of those so called Ebay stores cant seem to sell them
cheaper than the online stores do.
Bronco One? I have done business with them in the past as I use Motorola 2
way radios for business. He also is a dealer for them. Anyways, he is a
Garmin GPS dealer. He has always been big on the Emap model. I called him up
and told him I wanted to know if he had an Extrex Vista in stock as I was in
need of a new GPS. He told me the Vista was 'junk' and that I should buy an
Emap. I told hii that there was no comparison between the Vista and the Emap
(Vista has WAY more features and WAY more memory for map storage). I said I
have owned a Legend (same construction as the Vista) and it has lasted years
and has been dropped, kicked, slammed and everything else and it has held up
great. I also told him that I went to Garmin's web site and found that the
Emap was discontinued. His words were "Oh no, that is just the canadian
version" or something silly like that. What?! Canadain version?! What is
this guy smoking?! Anyways, he said that he had a few Vista's in stock and
that he would sell me one. He then told me this... "If I sell you a Vista,
you are to never come back to this store wanting service on it... you can
come in, purchase it, and leave and dont ever bring it back in this store".
THOSE WERE HIS WORDS! First off, the simple fact was he was trying to sell
me an Emap because he has a pile of them in stock that he probably cannot
get rid of because they were discontinued. The dude in that store is a liar
and had a lousy attitude toward a past customer! Second, I called Garmin to
confirm the Emap was discontinued and also found out about the new 60C which
was due out very soon (which I ended up purchasing online at GPSnow.com). I
told Garmin on the phone that they should be aware that one of their dealers
was talking trash about their products and I, quite frankly, dont think he
should even be a Garmin dealer. If I was a product manufacturer, I sure
wouldnt want someone like that dealing in my products. This is all just my
experiences with Bronco One. So, take it for what it is worth. But, buyer
beware.I dont trust them and I will never shop there again. Besides, I can
find cheaper prices online.
Scott
Team RTW
>From: "Brian Casteel"
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
>Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:13:01 -0700
>
>I second BroncoOne. The problem seems to be that places like Best Buy only
>carry one brand, and the store down the street carries the 'other' brand,
>but neither carry a decent variety. Aside from that, your best bet is
>really to go online to someplace like gpsnow.com if all else fails locally.
>
>Brian
>Team A.I.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From:
>To:
>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:38 PM
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
>
>
>>Who knows of a good place to buy a GPS (not on-line) that has a large
>>selection
>>of both Garmin and Magellan models and is located in the East Valley?
>>
>>-- Sprocket
From bloominfun at hotmail.com Sat Nov 13 12:56:05 2004
From: bloominfun at hotmail.com (*cynde* polenick)
Date: Sat Nov 13 12:57:19 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magnets
Message-ID:
Hi List:
I want to thank everyone (especially TEF) for their *not-to-miss* cache
suggestions. While my family was visiting, we were able to do a couple of
them. We really liked The Feed House, and so also pursued another one by
thisguytim... yikes! And I'm hoping to get 910.285 on my second attempt...
Everyone has left now, but we have really good memories of some great
caching experiences here in the Phx metro area. I think I found more than
60 (haven't logged some locationless yet) in six days...!
One thing we couldn't help but notice... in many of the caches, there is an
incredibly good magnet. It appears to have come out of something, as it
usually has a section that seems like it was ripped from something... they
were about 3" x 1/2" and sorta kidney-bean shaped... Anyone have any idea
how I might be able to obtain one on these gems?
Glad the system is running more smoothly...
cynde
Team BloominFun!
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From brian at Snaptek.com Sat Nov 13 13:09:31 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Sat Nov 13 13:08:56 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magnets
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <419669FB.7030806@Snaptek.com>
*cynde* polenick wrote:
> One thing we couldn't help but notice... in many of the caches, there is
> an incredibly good magnet. It appears to have come out of something, as
> it usually has a section that seems like it was ripped from
> something... they were about 3" x 1/2" and sorta kidney-bean shaped...
> Anyone have any idea how I might be able to obtain one on these gems?
What you are describing would HAVE to be the magnets out of a hard
drive. You can get them from places like http://wondermagnet.com/ or
buy them on e-bay. The easiest way might be to ask your local geek that
repairs computers. They almost certainly have a pile of dead or useless
hard drive you could year one out of. I USED to have a bunch of them
till me Motherinlaw decided she needed them more than me and took about
30 of them with her back to spain. ARRRG!
Brian Cluff
From billa41 at qwest.net Sat Nov 13 13:43:59 2004
From: billa41 at qwest.net (Bill A)
Date: Sat Nov 13 13:44:00 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magnets
References:
<419669FB.7030806@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c4c9c1$80992dd0$1b02a8c0@wiaz15xxwja01>
Brian is correct, they are from disk drives. Usually two can be found in a
drive. Does require very small torx screwdrivers to remove. If you only
need one or two I have a couple you can have. I like to leave them in ammo
can caches, a real challenge to remove!
Bill - The Watcher
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Cluff"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magnets
> *cynde* polenick wrote:
> > One thing we couldn't help but notice... in many of the caches, there is
> > an incredibly good magnet. It appears to have come out of something, as
> > it usually has a section that seems like it was ripped from
> > something... they were about 3" x 1/2" and sorta kidney-bean shaped...
> > Anyone have any idea how I might be able to obtain one on these gems?
>
> What you are describing would HAVE to be the magnets out of a hard
> drive. You can get them from places like http://wondermagnet.com/ or
> buy them on e-bay. The easiest way might be to ask your local geek that
> repairs computers. They almost certainly have a pile of dead or useless
> hard drive you could year one out of. I USED to have a bunch of them
> till me Motherinlaw decided she needed them more than me and took about
> 30 of them with her back to spain. ARRRG!
>
> Brian Cluff
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From EvilFish at cox.net Sat Nov 13 15:44:13 2004
From: EvilFish at cox.net (EvilFISH)
Date: Sat Nov 13 15:44:35 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magnets
References:
<419669FB.7030806@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c4c9d2$4cbe6dc0$20130244@fishkiller>
YES wondermaganet is where I got my Neodymium(sp) maganets
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Cluff"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magnets
> *cynde* polenick wrote:
> > One thing we couldn't help but notice... in many of the caches, there is
> > an incredibly good magnet. It appears to have come out of something, as
> > it usually has a section that seems like it was ripped from
> > something... they were about 3" x 1/2" and sorta kidney-bean shaped...
> > Anyone have any idea how I might be able to obtain one on these gems?
>
> What you are describing would HAVE to be the magnets out of a hard
> drive. You can get them from places like http://wondermagnet.com/ or
> buy them on e-bay. The easiest way might be to ask your local geek that
> repairs computers. They almost certainly have a pile of dead or useless
> hard drive you could year one out of. I USED to have a bunch of them
> till me Motherinlaw decided she needed them more than me and took about
> 30 of them with her back to spain. ARRRG!
>
> Brian Cluff
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From scott at myblueheaven.com Sat Nov 13 16:59:53 2004
From: scott at myblueheaven.com (scott@myblueheaven.com)
Date: Sat Nov 13 17:00:04 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magnets
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <2245.68.115.30.169.1100390393.squirrel@68.115.30.169>
> One thing we couldn't help but notice... in many of the caches, there is
> an
> incredibly good magnet. It appears to have come out of something, as it
> usually has a section that seems like it was ripped from something...
> they
> were about 3" x 1/2" and sorta kidney-bean shaped... Anyone have any idea
> how I might be able to obtain one on these gems?
You probably have your answer already, but just do a search for "rare
earth magnets" and you will find out about them. They are used in many
things, like computer hard drives, which is where the kidney shaped ones
typically come from. You can find any different shapes. If you use ebay,
you can get some great deals there.
From slavoy at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 13 18:12:11 2004
From: slavoy at sbcglobal.net (Steve)
Date: Sat Nov 13 18:12:19 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS purchases
Message-ID: <20041114011211.53543.qmail@web81101.mail.yahoo.com>
You might consider an REI store to see various models. However, once you decide on what model you want to buy, I would consider the suggestion for Walmart, if they have the one you want, or go on line. I have made purchases from various GPS sites, especially those linked to geocaching.com for both GPSs and accessories. For instance, GPSCity.com is a good one.
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From wburkett at yahoo.com Sun Nov 14 11:44:10 2004
From: wburkett at yahoo.com (Bill Burkett)
Date: Sun Nov 14 11:44:16 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
I had a great buying experience at Bronco One and simply love my eMap,
discontinued or not.
But the point is moot. Posters on the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club listserve
say the sign on the store now reads "Bronco Gone" and that the owner has
retired.
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
Roping The Wind
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:23 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] GPS store?
I would highly recommend NOT going to Bronco One. ...
From scottsparks1 at mchsi.com Sun Nov 14 00:57:00 2004
From: scottsparks1 at mchsi.com (Scott Sparks)
Date: Sun Nov 14 12:52:38 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: GPS store
Message-ID: <41970FCC.3070300@mchsi.com>
Thanks to everyone who responded to my query on local GPS stores,
although it seems a few of you didn't read the question very closely.
My old GPS died on Friday and I have plans to go caching Monday.
On-line or mail order was not an option in such a short period of time.
I went to many local stores and here is what I found in case anyone
needs to know in the future. Keep in mind that I live in the far east
valley and so wasn't able to make it to anyplace like Bronco One
(although it appears that they are no longer in business.)
K-mart (1 store checked)- No GPS's at all, that I could find, either in
Electronics or Sporting goods
Sports Authority (2 stores checked) - Only a couple bare bones models
available, very high priced
Target (1 store checked) - only a couple of bare bones models, 20-30
dollars higher than Wal-Mart
Best Buy (2 stores checked) - a small selection of both Garmin and
Magellan, but not the best price.
Wide World of Maps - (1 store checked) complete line of Garmin handhelp
GPS's, but prices were high, no Magellan product at all
Wal-Mart (4 stores checked) - a limited but mixed selection of low,
median and high-end models, lowest prices overall
I was specifically looking for one of the following models: Garmin eTrex
Vista, Magellan Meridian Gold, Magellan Meridian Platinum
The only place that had the Vista was Wide World of Maps. Nobody had
the Meridian Platinum. I finally settled on the Meridian Gold from
Wal-Mart but I had to go to four different stores to find one that
wasn't a man-handled display model. I've only had it a day and already
I see some exciting things about it and some other things that are just
plain idiotic. I'll try it for a few weeks and, if I decide I don't
like it, Wal-Mart will take it back and I'll try something else. I'll
try to remember to post my final decision. Oh, and BTW, Wal-Mart had a
better price than Amazon by a few cents. I didn't mind paying the sales
tax for instant gratification. ;-) Under other circumstances, I would
have ordered something from on-line but, as I mentioned, I needed it
right away.
-- Sprocket
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From cordh at mchsi.com Sun Nov 14 15:39:07 2004
From: cordh at mchsi.com (cordh@mchsi.com)
Date: Sun Nov 14 15:39:20 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: GPS store
In-Reply-To: <41970FCC.3070300@mchsi.com>
References: <41970FCC.3070300@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <200411141539.07949.cordh@mchsi.com>
On Sunday 14 November 2004 00:57, Scott Sparks wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who responded to my query on local GPS stores,
> although it seems a few of you didn't read the question very closely.
> My old GPS died on Friday and I have plans to go caching Monday.
> On-line or mail order was not an option in such a short period of time.
> I went to many local stores and here is what I found in case anyone
> needs to know in the future. Keep in mind that I live in the far east
> valley and so wasn't able to make it to anyplace like Bronco One
> (although it appears that they are no longer in business.)
>
> K-mart (1 store checked)- No GPS's at all, that I could find, either in
> Electronics or Sporting goods
> Sports Authority (2 stores checked) - Only a couple bare bones models
> available, very high priced
> Target (1 store checked) - only a couple of bare bones models, 20-30
> dollars higher than Wal-Mart
> Best Buy (2 stores checked) - a small selection of both Garmin and
> Magellan, but not the best price.
> Wide World of Maps - (1 store checked) complete line of Garmin handhelp
> GPS's, but prices were high, no Magellan product at all
> Wal-Mart (4 stores checked) - a limited but mixed selection of low,
> median and high-end models, lowest prices overall
>
> I was specifically looking for one of the following models: Garmin eTrex
> Vista, Magellan Meridian Gold, Magellan Meridian Platinum
>
> The only place that had the Vista was Wide World of Maps. Nobody had
> the Meridian Platinum. I finally settled on the Meridian Gold from
> Wal-Mart but I had to go to four different stores to find one that
> wasn't a man-handled display model. I've only had it a day and already
> I see some exciting things about it and some other things that are just
> plain idiotic. I'll try it for a few weeks and, if I decide I don't
> like it, Wal-Mart will take it back and I'll try something else. I'll
> try to remember to post my final decision. Oh, and BTW, Wal-Mart had a
> better price than Amazon by a few cents. I didn't mind paying the sales
> tax for instant gratification. ;-) Under other circumstances, I would
> have ordered something from on-line but, as I mentioned, I needed it
> right away.
>
> -- Sprocket
Had to return the Magellan Gold I had bought at the Walmart in AJ. The
antenna seemed to have an intermittent connection causing all kind of
problems with stability. I kinda liked the display and organization of it
but Walmart didn't have another. The one I bought had been returned before I
bought it. Anyway returned it and traded up for another Sportack Pro. My
shopping experiences closely parallels yours.
Cord
From sstringh at stringham-family.org Sun Nov 14 16:52:37 2004
From: sstringh at stringham-family.org (Steven Stringham)
Date: Sun Nov 14 16:52:30 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: GPS store
In-Reply-To: <41970FCC.3070300@mchsi.com>
References: <41970FCC.3070300@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <4197EFC5.7060500@stringham-family.org>
The places not mentioned: Popular, and REI. Both have a line of etrex
units. I can't say much about the price, however.
Scott Sparks wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who responded to my query on local GPS stores,
> although it seems a few of you didn't read the question very closely.
> My old GPS died on Friday and I have plans to go caching Monday.
> On-line or mail order was not an option in such a short period of
> time. I went to many local stores and here is what I found in case
> anyone needs to know in the future. Keep in mind that I live in the
> far east valley and so wasn't able to make it to anyplace like Bronco
> One (although it appears that they are no longer in business.)
>
> K-mart (1 store checked)- No GPS's at all, that I could find, either
> in Electronics or Sporting goods
> Sports Authority (2 stores checked) - Only a couple bare bones models
> available, very high priced
> Target (1 store checked) - only a couple of bare bones models, 20-30
> dollars higher than Wal-Mart
> Best Buy (2 stores checked) - a small selection of both Garmin and
> Magellan, but not the best price.
> Wide World of Maps - (1 store checked) _complete_ line of Garmin
> handhelp GPS's, but prices were high, no Magellan product at all
> Wal-Mart (4 stores checked) - a limited but mixed selection of low,
> median and high-end models, lowest prices overall
>
> I was specifically looking for one of the following models: Garmin
> eTrex Vista, Magellan Meridian Gold, Magellan Meridian Platinum
>
> The only place that had the Vista was Wide World of Maps. Nobody had
> the Meridian Platinum. I finally settled on the Meridian Gold from
> Wal-Mart but I had to go to four different stores to find one that
> wasn't a man-handled display model. I've only had it a day and
> already I see some exciting things about it and some other things that
> are just plain idiotic. I'll try it for a few weeks and, if I decide
> I don't like it, Wal-Mart will take it back and I'll try something
> else. I'll try to remember to post my final decision. Oh, and BTW,
> Wal-Mart had a better price than Amazon by a few cents. I didn't mind
> paying the sales tax for instant gratification. ;-) Under other
> circumstances, I would have ordered something from on-line but, as I
> mentioned, I needed it right away.
>
> -- Sprocket
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From george at customcals.com Sun Nov 14 17:29:32 2004
From: george at customcals.com (George Harris)
Date: Sun Nov 14 17:26:33 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: GPS store
References: <41970FCC.3070300@mchsi.com>
<4197EFC5.7060500@stringham-family.org>
Message-ID: <017101c4caaa$2eb87c70$b600a8c0@athlon>
For those in the military, the clothing sales stores at the PX/BX have GPS units. I bought my Meridian Platinum at the clothing sales store at Ft. Carson. BTW, they match anybody's prices, even online. I got mine for $250, no tax, out the door.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Stringham
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: GPS store
The places not mentioned: Popular, and REI. Both have a line of etrex units. I can't say much about the price, however.
Scott Sparks wrote:
Thanks to everyone who responded to my query on local GPS stores, although it seems a few of you didn't read the question very closely. My old GPS died on Friday and I have plans to go caching Monday. On-line or mail order was not an option in such a short period of time. I went to many local stores and here is what I found in case anyone needs to know in the future. Keep in mind that I live in the far east valley and so wasn't able to make it to anyplace like Bronco One (although it appears that they are no longer in business.)
K-mart (1 store checked)- No GPS's at all, that I could find, either in Electronics or Sporting goods
Sports Authority (2 stores checked) - Only a couple bare bones models available, very high priced
Target (1 store checked) - only a couple of bare bones models, 20-30 dollars higher than Wal-Mart
Best Buy (2 stores checked) - a small selection of both Garmin and Magellan, but not the best price.
Wide World of Maps - (1 store checked) complete line of Garmin handhelp GPS's, but prices were high, no Magellan product at all
Wal-Mart (4 stores checked) - a limited but mixed selection of low, median and high-end models, lowest prices overall
I was specifically looking for one of the following models: Garmin eTrex Vista, Magellan Meridian Gold, Magellan Meridian Platinum
The only place that had the Vista was Wide World of Maps. Nobody had the Meridian Platinum. I finally settled on the Meridian Gold from Wal-Mart but I had to go to four different stores to find one that wasn't a man-handled display model. I've only had it a day and already I see some exciting things about it and some other things that are just plain idiotic. I'll try it for a few weeks and, if I decide I don't like it, Wal-Mart will take it back and I'll try something else. I'll try to remember to post my final decision. Oh, and BTW, Wal-Mart had a better price than Amazon by a few cents. I didn't mind paying the sales tax for instant gratification. ;-) Under other circumstances, I would have ordered something from on-line but, as I mentioned, I needed it right away.
-- Sprocket
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From scottsparks1 at mchsi.com Mon Nov 15 09:51:54 2004
From: scottsparks1 at mchsi.com (Scott Sparks)
Date: Mon Nov 15 21:47:27 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Re: GPS Store
Message-ID: <4198DEAA.8090508@mchsi.com>
>
>
>From: Steven Stringham
>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: GPS store
>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>Message-ID: <4197EFC5.7060500@stringham-family.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>The places not mentioned: Popular, and REI. Both have a line of etrex
>units. I can't say much about the price, however.
>
>Scott Sparks wrote:
>
>
>
>>> Thanks to everyone who responded to my query on local GPS stores,
>>
Ooops! I forget to mention that I did go to the Popular store on Power
near Baseline. Their selection was abysmal.
-- Sprocket
From WEBOWITZ at aol.com Wed Nov 17 08:46:29 2004
From: WEBOWITZ at aol.com (WEBOWITZ@aol.com)
Date: Wed Nov 17 08:46:55 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2059
Message-ID: <8.5bc5ca8b.2ecccc55@aol.com>
Fry's Electronics carries the Magellan Platinum......at least in Las Vegas so
I am sure they should in Phoenix.
Be well, be safe and cache happy,
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From xqsxqs at qwest.net Wed Nov 17 16:55:44 2004
From: xqsxqs at qwest.net (Paul Hruby)
Date: Wed Nov 17 16:56:20 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Bronco One
Message-ID: <000001c4cd00$f4489cb0$640aa8c0@thunder>
I just joined the list since a fellow geo-cacher noticed a thread regarding
Bronco One.
I had a similar experience - I was trying to purchase a Garmin 76CS? last
summer and looked at all the different web sites and was actually bidding on
units on E-Bay, but the prices were around 325.00. Then a friend told me
about Bronco One. I always took my CB problems there and had no problems so
I thought I'd stop by.
Although Bronco One had the 76CS priced about the same as what was going on
Ebay and a little cheaper then the Internet stores, I was steered to and did
purchase a Garmin EMap. I had a 64MB memory card installed and was out the
door spending just a little less. Although the unit was new, I realized
that when I got it home, it was made in 97 (1st 2 digits of the s/n). So I
went to Garmin's site (should have done that first, but being a newbee -
live and learn) and noticed the unit was discontinued.
Now for what's it's worth, I really like the Emap. It's small enough,
doesn't use much power and I have a lot of street information loaded - Most
of Arizona, part of Nevada and southern California. The only thing that I
don't like is that the unit isn't really water resistant.
I did notice that Bronco One charged a little under retail for the
accessories, so I went to Ebay and bought a magnetic antenna and car adapter
for 1/4 the price at Bronco One. The antenna is awesome. I went from 3 or
4 sats at 30-50% out of 12 sats while in the car to 8 sats at 100% - all for
less then $25.00.
All in all, I really like the EMap.
BTW, the owner of Bronco One supposedly closed shop, sold all his land
investments for 35 million and moved to France. Now that could have been a
bunch of @!@#%@!! for all I know. He may have sold the store to someone
else because I drove by there a week ago and although the fence was closed,
people were still buying propane.
Sonic Warthog
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From insomniak at cox.net Wed Nov 17 17:37:27 2004
From: insomniak at cox.net (insomniak@cox.net)
Date: Wed Nov 17 17:37:42 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20041118003729.LOUL14545.fed1rmmtao09.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
I bought my first GPS (Garmin GPS V) through Radio Shack. They don't carry Garmin anymore, but they carry Magellen... I'm not sure about their selection since I'm Garmin-centric
My second GPS is the Garmin Forerunner 201, I got on Amazon.com. I actually got from Amazon before people had announced it was available. The suggested retail was about $140-150, but I got it for just over $100 back then.
My third is the Garmin 60C... for which I highly recommend. Like my teammate, I got mine at GPSNOW.com. My unit arrived within 3 days. Hit the add to cart button and see just how low their prices are.
Wide World of Maps has a nice selection too. The east valley store is across from Fiesta Mall behind Carl's Jr, on Southern and Longmore. Prices are about the same as I've seen in most retail stores.
Jake - Team A.I.
From bloominfun at hotmail.com Thu Nov 18 07:44:03 2004
From: bloominfun at hotmail.com (*cynde* polenick)
Date: Thu Nov 18 07:45:23 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magnets
Message-ID:
Thanks everyone for replying to my request about where to get the magnets.
I read your responses to my local MAC nerd, who was sitting about 5 feet
from me and is the other half of Team BloominFun!, who said:
NERD: "Yup, I was right..."
ME: "Well, do you have any HDs around that we could try to get one from
it?"
NERD: "Only about 100."
ME: :-}
But the thing with the Macs, they are much smaller, and shatter upon
aggressive removal... So, I'll check out the listed suggestions... Thanks
again!
cynde
of Team BloominFun!
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From brian at Snaptek.com Thu Nov 18 08:47:59 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Thu Nov 18 08:47:30 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magnets
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <419CC42F.6050100@Snaptek.com>
*cynde* polenick wrote:
> But the thing with the Macs, they are much smaller, and shatter upon
> aggressive removal... So, I'll check out the listed suggestions...
Any of those killer magnets are going to be made out of the same, or
similar ceramic. I find that if I leave them connected to the piece of
metal thay came on that they seem to be a little bit stronger, and hold
up a lot longer.
I've alse noticed that when they do break, pieces can fly off of them
fast enough to draw blood (know this from experience) or I would image
that if it hit your eye, you could have some serious vision loss.
Also be very careful when playing with them, or sooner or later your get
a blood blister. Of course nobody ever believes me till they get one :)
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
From arizcowboy at hotmail.com Thu Nov 18 01:32:35 2004
From: arizcowboy at hotmail.com (Roping The Wind)
Date: Thu Nov 18 23:39:38 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Bronco One
In-Reply-To: <000001c4cd00$f4489cb0$640aa8c0@thunder>
Message-ID:
>From: "Paul Hruby"
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Bronco One
>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:55:44 -0700
>
>I just joined the list since a fellow geo-cacher noticed a thread regarding
>Bronco One.
>
>I had a similar experience - I was trying to purchase a Garmin 76CS? last
>summer and looked at all the different web sites and was actually bidding
>on
>units on E-Bay, but the prices were around 325.00. Then a friend told me
>about Bronco One. I always took my CB problems there and had no problems
>so
>I thought I'd stop by.
>
>Although Bronco One had the 76CS priced about the same as what was going on
>Ebay and a little cheaper then the Internet stores, I was steered to and
>did
>purchase a Garmin EMap. I had a 64MB memory card installed and was out the
>door spending just a little less. Although the unit was new, I realized
>that when I got it home, it was made in 97 (1st 2 digits of the s/n). So I
>went to Garmin's site (should have done that first, but being a newbee -
>live and learn) and noticed the unit was discontinued.
>
>Now for what's it's worth, I really like the Emap. It's small enough,
>doesn't use much power and I have a lot of street information loaded - Most
>of Arizona, part of Nevada and southern California. The only thing that I
>don't like is that the unit isn't really water resistant.
>
>I did notice that Bronco One charged a little under retail for the
>accessories, so I went to Ebay and bought a magnetic antenna and car
>adapter
>for 1/4 the price at Bronco One. The antenna is awesome. I went from 3 or
>4 sats at 30-50% out of 12 sats while in the car to 8 sats at 100% - all
>for
>less then $25.00.
>
>All in all, I really like the EMap.
>
>BTW, the owner of Bronco One supposedly closed shop, sold all his land
>investments for 35 million and moved to France. Now that could have been a
>bunch of @!@#%@!! for all I know. He may have sold the store to someone
>else because I drove by there a week ago and although the fence was closed,
>people were still buying propane.
>Sonic Warthog
I wouldnt think you would need an external antenna for your GPS to work in
your car. My Garmin 60C picks up 12 satellites no problem sitting in the
front seat of my truck (not on the dash). The Emap is an ok unit as far as
the big screen goes. Other than that... well, it aint all that great. That
is why Garmin discontinued it and why that sleezeball at Bronco One tried to
sell you on it.. cuz he wanted to get rid of them!!! At any rate, a GPS is a
GPS as long as it works. So enjoy it while you own it.. but, as Jake said...
I too would highly recommend the 60C. I use one too. It is by far the best
value in any outdoor GPS currently on the market, offering the most features
for your money. Just do the homework.... read all the reviews and compare
features. There is no comparison in a full color handheld outdoor GPS unit
currently on the market, IMHO.
Scott
Team RTW
From bcasteel at uccinc.net Sat Nov 20 01:16:54 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sat Nov 20 01:17:27 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] SNOW!!
Message-ID: <005101c4ced9$4c0aae50$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Just thought I'd let everyone know that our first official snowfall of the season came tonight. There's about 2" on the lawn right now, and around 1/2" accumulation on the streets. I took about an hour or so tonight and discovered just how much different driving in snow is with a full-time locked rear end. But it's cake now. :)
Right now, it's just 'snowing'. Earlier we had a pretty good snow shower that put down that ground accumulation in about 45 minutes.
Brian
Team A.I.
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From scott at myblueheaven.com Sat Nov 20 10:43:11 2004
From: scott at myblueheaven.com (Scott Wood)
Date: Sat Nov 20 10:44:08 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] SNOW!!
In-Reply-To: <005101c4ced9$4c0aae50$3401a8c0@tyrael>
References: <005101c4ced9$4c0aae50$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120104225.019bb9d8@mail.myblueheaven.com>
At 01:16 AM 11/20/2004, you wrote:
>Just thought I'd let everyone know that our first official snowfall of the
>season came tonight. There's about 2" on the lawn right now, and around
>1/2" accumulation on the streets. I took about an hour or so tonight and
>discovered just how much different driving in snow is with a full-time
>locked rear end. But it's cake now. :)
I just spent the last 2 weeks in Wisconsin and thought that I would get to
see some snow while there, but the weather was great, and only got rain on
a couple different days. To be honest, I am sort of disappointed.
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From scott at myblueheaven.com Sat Nov 20 10:47:36 2004
From: scott at myblueheaven.com (Scott Wood)
Date: Sat Nov 20 10:48:00 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] List question
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120104709.019bb758@mail.myblueheaven.com>
Is there anyway to have the list stop the out of office replies that
sometimes come through when you send a message to the list?
From brian at Snaptek.com Sat Nov 20 11:15:55 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Sat Nov 20 11:15:15 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] List question
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120104709.019bb758@mail.myblueheaven.com>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120104709.019bb758@mail.myblueheaven.com>
Message-ID: <419F89DB.6050600@Snaptek.com>
Scott Wood wrote:
> Is there anyway to have the list stop the out of office replies that
> sometimes come through when you send a message to the list?
Nope... the replies aren't going through the list, they are going
straight to your e-mail account.
I would suggest that you mail the person back that sending you those and
have them put an exception for the mailing list into the configuration
of their auto responder so that it doesn't respond to messages
originating from this or any mailing list.
Or better yet, get some less retarded software that realizes that it
came from the list in the first place.
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
From EvilFish at cox.net Sat Nov 20 11:43:56 2004
From: EvilFish at cox.net (EvilFISH)
Date: Sat Nov 20 11:44:14 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] List question
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120104709.019bb758@mail.myblueheaven.com>
<419F89DB.6050600@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <002101c4cf30$e3fd61b0$20130244@fishkiller>
yeah
I now have better software :) I know unrelated but hey it was software....
any word on the monthly update??
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Cluff"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] List question
> Scott Wood wrote:
>> Is there anyway to have the list stop the out of office replies that
>> sometimes come through when you send a message to the list?
>
> Nope... the replies aren't going through the list, they are going
> straight to your e-mail account.
>
> I would suggest that you mail the person back that sending you those and
> have them put an exception for the mailing list into the configuration
> of their auto responder so that it doesn't respond to messages
> originating from this or any mailing list.
> Or better yet, get some less retarded software that realizes that it
> came from the list in the first place.
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
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From arizcowboy at hotmail.com Sat Nov 20 12:36:06 2004
From: arizcowboy at hotmail.com (Roping The Wind)
Date: Sat Nov 20 12:37:23 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] SNOW!!
In-Reply-To: <005101c4ced9$4c0aae50$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Message-ID:
>From: "Brian Casteel"
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: "AZ Geocaching"
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] SNOW!!
>Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:16:54 -0700
>
>Just thought I'd let everyone know that our first official snowfall of the
>season came tonight. There's about 2" on the lawn right now, and around
>1/2" accumulation on the streets. I took about an hour or so tonight and
>discovered just how much different driving in snow is with a full-time
>locked rear end. But it's cake now. :)
>
>Right now, it's just 'snowing'. Earlier we had a pretty good snow shower
>that put down that ground accumulation in about 45 minutes.
>
>Brian
>Team A.I.
Wow! I cant believe you are getting your first snow fall up there in
Montana! Arizona has already had snow fall in our last couple of wx systems.
On my way home from Las Vegas last Monday, I saw snow up on Haulapai Peak
near Kingman! Flagstaff has had some decent snow already as well!
Interesting.
Well, good to hear you are still out there. Hadnt heard from you on the list
in a little while and thought maybe you went into hibernation up there for
the winter already! :)) HA!
Scott
Team Ropingthewind
From brian at Snaptek.com Sat Nov 20 13:27:30 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Sat Nov 20 13:26:49 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] List question
In-Reply-To: <002101c4cf30$e3fd61b0$20130244@fishkiller>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120104709.019bb758@mail.myblueheaven.com> <419F89DB.6050600@Snaptek.com>
<002101c4cf30$e3fd61b0$20130244@fishkiller>
Message-ID: <419FA8B2.10202@Snaptek.com>
EvilFISH wrote:
> any word on the monthly update??
Added 137 caches.... they should show up tomorrow
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
From bcasteel at uccinc.net Sat Nov 20 15:25:20 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sat Nov 20 15:25:41 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] SNOW!!
References:
Message-ID: <009001c4cf4f$d1e617a0$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Don't get me wrong. There HAS been snow in Montana, just none in Billings
until last night. The west end of the state (Beartooth Mountains, Rockies)
have had snow and get more because of the mountainous area it is. This area
is more plains than anything
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roping The Wind"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] SNOW!!
>
>
>
>>From: "Brian Casteel"
>>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>To: "AZ Geocaching"
>>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] SNOW!!
>>Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:16:54 -0700
>>
>>Just thought I'd let everyone know that our first official snowfall of the
>>season came tonight. There's about 2" on the lawn right now, and around
>>1/2" accumulation on the streets. I took about an hour or so tonight and
>>discovered just how much different driving in snow is with a full-time
>>locked rear end. But it's cake now. :)
>>
>>Right now, it's just 'snowing'. Earlier we had a pretty good snow shower
>>that put down that ground accumulation in about 45 minutes.
>>
>>Brian
>>Team A.I.
>
>
> Wow! I cant believe you are getting your first snow fall up there in
> Montana! Arizona has already had snow fall in our last couple of wx
> systems. On my way home from Las Vegas last Monday, I saw snow up on
> Haulapai Peak near Kingman! Flagstaff has had some decent snow already as
> well! Interesting.
>
> Well, good to hear you are still out there. Hadnt heard from you on the
> list in a little while and thought maybe you went into hibernation up
> there for the winter already! :)) HA!
>
> Scott
> Team Ropingthewind
>
>
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From bcasteel at uccinc.net Sat Nov 20 15:28:30 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sat Nov 20 15:28:50 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Moun10bike Geocoins
Message-ID: <00c101c4cf50$432a5e80$3401a8c0@tyrael>
I know Randman will get a chuckle out of this (/me grins at EvilFISH), but one of the coveted coins made an appearance today at a local event, transported by some Missoula cachers. I was tempted to stab him with an icicle and make off with it, but resisted. ;) How cool they are in person. No matter how much I schmoozed, he wouldn't give it to me...ha
Brian
Team A.I.
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From scott at myblueheaven.com Sat Nov 20 17:54:30 2004
From: scott at myblueheaven.com (Scott Wood)
Date: Sat Nov 20 17:55:30 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] List question
In-Reply-To: <419F89DB.6050600@Snaptek.com>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120104709.019bb758@mail.myblueheaven.com>
<419F89DB.6050600@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120175336.019f53a8@mail.myblueheaven.com>
At 11:15 AM 11/20/2004, you wrote:
>Or better yet, get some less retarded software that realizes that it came
>from the list in the first place.
I assume that you mean the software of the guy that is sending the out of
office auto-replies. I can set up filters in Eudora to get rid of them,
but I really don't want to bother. :-)
From brian at Snaptek.com Sat Nov 20 18:06:57 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Sat Nov 20 18:06:20 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] List question
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120175336.019f53a8@mail.myblueheaven.com>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120104709.019bb758@mail.myblueheaven.com> <419F89DB.6050600@Snaptek.com>
<6.1.2.0.2.20041120175336.019f53a8@mail.myblueheaven.com>
Message-ID: <419FEA31.2020506@Snaptek.com>
Scott Wood wrote:
> I assume that you mean the software of the guy that is sending the out
> of office auto-replies. I can set up filters in Eudora to get rid of
> them, but I really don't want to bother. :-)
Yup, thats the software I'm talking about.
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
From bcasteel at uccinc.net Sat Nov 20 18:33:09 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sat Nov 20 18:33:29 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] List question
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20041120104709.019bb758@mail.myblueheaven.com> <419F89DB.6050600@Snaptek.com><6.1.2.0.2.20041120175336.019f53a8@mail.myblueheaven.com>
<419FEA31.2020506@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c4cf6a$0eb12570$3401a8c0@tyrael>
And would this have anything to do with hoping the company would EXCHANGE
its current software for something...better? ;P
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Cluff"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] List question
> Scott Wood wrote:
>
>> I assume that you mean the software of the guy that is sending the out of
>> office auto-replies. I can set up filters in Eudora to get rid of them,
>> but I really don't want to bother. :-)
>
> Yup, thats the software I'm talking about.
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
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From polt at snaptek.com Sun Nov 21 10:37:09 2004
From: polt at snaptek.com (Jason Poulter)
Date: Sun Nov 21 10:37:38 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] TOPO! data file
In-Reply-To: <41941781.3000507@inficad.com>
References: <41941781.3000507@inficad.com>
Message-ID: <41A0D245.7040304@snaptek.com>
the TOPO! data file downloads are now fixed
jason
Steve Burton wrote:
> Any chance this can be 'fixed' anytime soon? I really enjoyed seeing all
> the caches ever existent in AZ. Comes in handy for planning a new hide,
> too!
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
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From EvilFish at cox.net Sun Nov 21 10:38:51 2004
From: EvilFish at cox.net (EvilFISH)
Date: Sun Nov 21 10:39:13 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] TOPO! data file
References: <41941781.3000507@inficad.com> <41A0D245.7040304@snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c4cff0$f7088d50$20130244@fishkiller>
THANKS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Poulter"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] TOPO! data file
> the TOPO! data file downloads are now fixed
>
> jason
>
>
> Steve Burton wrote:
>> Any chance this can be 'fixed' anytime soon? I really enjoyed seeing all
>> the caches ever existent in AZ. Comes in handy for planning a new hide,
>> too!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>>
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From brian at Snaptek.com Sun Nov 21 11:26:06 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Sun Nov 21 11:25:36 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Updating Of The Stats
Message-ID: <41A0DDBE.70904@Snaptek.com>
Well, with any luck the stats should start updating automatically on
their own.
Hopefully we'll get a couple of months before we have to fix it again :)
We can now get back to the fights about how the numbers aren't
important, and the people that they are important to can once again find
caches at an incredible rate.
I'll try and get the missing cache recovery code back into the system as
soon as possible....
Brian Cluff
AzGeocaching.com
From brian at Snaptek.com Sun Nov 21 12:15:38 2004
From: brian at Snaptek.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Sun Nov 21 12:14:58 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New feature..sorta
Message-ID: <41A0E95A.9000906@Snaptek.com>
Well, actually it's regaining and old feature, but it's much much much
improved from the good old days when it previously worked.
Anyway, you can now search the mailing list.... and any and all
attachments are preserved, unlike my little home brew search utility
that just stripped the message down to it's plain text.
It's available from the menu on most pages on AzGeocaching.com under
"Search the Mailing List"
Enjoy....
Brian Cluff
AzGeocaching.com
Team Snaptek
From bcasteel at uccinc.net Sun Nov 21 12:50:28 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sun Nov 21 12:50:51 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Updating Of The Stats
References: <41A0DDBE.70904@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <00ec01c4d003$5a3b46d0$3401a8c0@tyrael>
You're getting feisty now...I kinda like it. :)
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Cluff"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Updating Of The Stats
> Well, with any luck the stats should start updating automatically on
> their own.
>
> Hopefully we'll get a couple of months before we have to fix it again :)
>
> We can now get back to the fights about how the numbers aren't
> important, and the people that they are important to can once again find
> caches at an incredible rate.
>
> I'll try and get the missing cache recovery code back into the system as
> soon as possible....
>
> Brian Cluff
> AzGeocaching.com
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From azhardman at inficad.com Sun Nov 21 17:37:04 2004
From: azhardman at inficad.com (Steve Burton)
Date: Sun Nov 21 17:37:30 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] TOPO! data file
Message-ID: <41A134B0.2060004@inficad.com>
YAAAAYYYY!
Yes, It works now! Thanks guys!
Cache On!
Steve
From teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net Sun Nov 21 19:10:42 2004
From: teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Sun Nov 21 19:11:11 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
Message-ID: <000b01c4d038$7bbce720$6801a8c0@business>
I've seen references to nRoute on Garmin's website, but I can't get any
clear idea of who can use it. I know it's downloadable, but is it only
for certain Garmin models or software? Or is it something that can be
used by anyone, or at least anyone with a Garmin GPS and/or Garmin map
software?
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From bcasteel at uccinc.net Sun Nov 21 19:36:02 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sun Nov 21 19:36:27 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
References: <000b01c4d038$7bbce720$6801a8c0@business>
Message-ID: <012401c4d03c$021e93b0$3401a8c0@tyrael>
http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=575
a.. Brings Garmin's award-winning auto-routing navigation to your laptop, utilizing the larger screen to display a large map and easy-to-read directions.
b.. Performs turn-by-turn route assistance and previewing, including spoken turn reminders and automatic recalculation when off-route.
c.. Tracks your location using either north-up orientation or vehicle-direction up.
d.. Finds places and easily routes to all points of interest and addresses that your MapSource product provides.
e.. Allows you to customize the places that you want to find and route to quickly using 'Find'; for example, 'Nearest Gas' or 'Nearest Italian Food'.
f.. Provides driver with information, including upcoming cross-streets, street addresses, speed, bearing, and elevation.
g.. Provides multiple trip computers that allow you to track distance, time, and speeds for business or personal use.
h.. Allows importing and exporting of user data to and from MapSource files.
i.. Works with all MapSource products. Note that BlueChart and MetroGuide 5 or greater will not support some features.
j.. Designed for use with the GPS 18, but will work with almost any Garmin GPS over serial or USB.
k.. Available to MapSource owners as a significant improvement and expansion of the real-time tracking capability. Takes advantage of your installed map product's capabilities. For example, you can find an address and it will auto-route on any auto-routing map, like City Select.
Looks like the link is broken right now though.
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: Team Tierra Buena
To: Arizona Geocaching
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:10 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
I've seen references to nRoute on Garmin's website, but I can't get any clear idea of who can use it. I know it's downloadable, but is it only for certain Garmin models or software? Or is it something that can be used by anyone, or at least anyone with a Garmin GPS and/or Garmin map software?
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net Sun Nov 21 20:25:58 2004
From: teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Sun Nov 21 20:26:23 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
In-Reply-To: <012401c4d03c$021e93b0$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Message-ID: <002101c4d042$fc4ed420$6801a8c0@business>
Thanks, Brian. How did I miss that?
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
Brian Casteel
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:36 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=575
* Brings Garmin's award-winning auto-routing navigation to your
laptop, utilizing the larger screen to display a large map and
easy-to-read directions.
* Performs turn-by-turn route assistance and previewing, including
spoken turn reminders and automatic recalculation when off-route.
* Tracks your location using either north-up orientation or
vehicle-direction up.
* Finds places and easily routes to all points of interest and
addresses that your MapSource product provides.
* Allows you to customize the places that you want to find and
route to quickly using 'Find'; for example, 'Nearest Gas' or 'Nearest
Italian Food'.
* Provides driver with information, including upcoming
cross-streets, street addresses, speed, bearing, and elevation.
* Provides multiple trip computers that allow you to track
distance, time, and speeds for business or personal use.
* Allows importing and exporting of user data to and from
MapSource files.
* Works with all MapSource products. Note that BlueChart and
MetroGuide 5 or greater will not support some features.
* Designed for use with the GPS 18, but will work with almost any
Garmin GPS over serial or USB.
* Available to MapSource owners as a significant improvement and
expansion of the real-time tracking capability. Takes advantage of your
installed map product's capabilities. For example, you can find an
address and it will auto-route on any auto-routing map, like City
Select.
Looks like the link is broken right now though.
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: Team Tierra Buena
To: Arizona Geocaching
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:10 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
I've seen references to nRoute on Garmin's website, but I can't get any
clear idea of who can use it. I know it's downloadable, but is it only
for certain Garmin models or software? Or is it something that can be
used by anyone, or at least anyone with a Garmin GPS and/or Garmin map
software?
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From bcasteel at uccinc.net Sun Nov 21 22:34:59 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sun Nov 21 22:35:23 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
References: <002101c4d042$fc4ed420$6801a8c0@business>
Message-ID: <015f01c4d055$01dc5130$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Poor eyesight? Old age? :)
I didn't even take the time to look around the Garmin site. All I did was google nroute and it was kind enough to provide me with the direct link, but you can also find it via the search tool on the Garmin website.
The following link takes you to the beta version, which does NOT result in a 404. 14.88MB file.
http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=609
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: Team Tierra Buena
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
Thanks, Brian. How did I miss that?
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Brian Casteel
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:36 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=575
a.. Brings Garmin's award-winning auto-routing navigation to your laptop, utilizing the larger screen to display a large map and easy-to-read directions.
b.. Performs turn-by-turn route assistance and previewing, including spoken turn reminders and automatic recalculation when off-route.
c.. Tracks your location using either north-up orientation or vehicle-direction up.
d.. Finds places and easily routes to all points of interest and addresses that your MapSource product provides.
e.. Allows you to customize the places that you want to find and route to quickly using 'Find'; for example, 'Nearest Gas' or 'Nearest Italian Food'.
f.. Provides driver with information, including upcoming cross-streets, street addresses, speed, bearing, and elevation.
g.. Provides multiple trip computers that allow you to track distance, time, and speeds for business or personal use.
h.. Allows importing and exporting of user data to and from MapSource files.
i.. Works with all MapSource products. Note that BlueChart and MetroGuide 5 or greater will not support some features.
j.. Designed for use with the GPS 18, but will work with almost any Garmin GPS over serial or USB.
k.. Available to MapSource owners as a significant improvement and expansion of the real-time tracking capability. Takes advantage of your installed map product's capabilities. For example, you can find an address and it will auto-route on any auto-routing map, like City Select.
Looks like the link is broken right now though.
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: Team Tierra Buena
To: Arizona Geocaching
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:10 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
I've seen references to nRoute on Garmin's website, but I can't get any clear idea of who can use it. I know it's downloadable, but is it only for certain Garmin models or software? Or is it something that can be used by anyone, or at least anyone with a Garmin GPS and/or Garmin map software?
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From rhrdn8 at juno.com Mon Nov 22 10:16:30 2004
From: rhrdn8 at juno.com (rhrdn8@juno.com)
Date: Mon Nov 22 10:18:10 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Moun10bike Geocoins
Message-ID: <20041122.091652.5250.102419@webmail31.nyc.untd.com>
Brian,
HaHaHaHa....
It's gotta be eatin' ya up! I know that I promised Regan (EvilFish) my "Moun10bike" geocoin ... but it's just hard to let it go! Maybe I'll just end up bequeathing it to him in my will. (Hmmm....maybe I shouldn't have said that....knowing Regan, he'll probably "knock me off"!) ;-)
Rand (RandMan)
From EvilFish at cox.net Mon Nov 22 15:00:59 2004
From: EvilFish at cox.net (EvilFISH)
Date: Mon Nov 22 15:01:24 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Moun10bike Geocoins
References: <20041122.091652.5250.102419@webmail31.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c4d0de$bfd8f380$20130244@fishkiller>
what you are ALIVE????/
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Moun10bike Geocoins
>
> Brian,
>
> HaHaHaHa....
>
> It's gotta be eatin' ya up! I know that I promised Regan (EvilFish) my
> "Moun10bike" geocoin ... but it's just hard to let it go! Maybe I'll just
> end up bequeathing it to him in my will. (Hmmm....maybe I shouldn't have
> said that....knowing Regan, he'll probably "knock me off"!) ;-)
>
> Rand (RandMan)
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From sonoralovesmommy at yahoo.com Mon Nov 22 19:40:17 2004
From: sonoralovesmommy at yahoo.com (Gale)
Date: Mon Nov 22 19:40:42 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Moun10bike Geocoins
In-Reply-To: <20041122.091652.5250.102419@webmail31.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20041123024017.70704.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com>
Some of us thought he already had.....been too long since Randman has been seen in the caching community or on the list.
"rhrdn8@juno.com" wrote:
Brian,
HaHaHaHa....
It's gotta be eatin' ya up! I know that I promised Regan (EvilFish) my "Moun10bike" geocoin ... but it's just hard to let it go! Maybe I'll just end up bequeathing it to him in my will. (Hmmm....maybe I shouldn't have said that....knowing Regan, he'll probably "knock me off"!) ;-)
Rand (RandMan)
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From hunting at shakabruddah.com Mon Nov 22 19:39:22 2004
From: hunting at shakabruddah.com (ShadowAce)
Date: Mon Nov 22 19:41:21 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Wyle E
Message-ID:
Anyone heard from Larry from Team Wyle "E" lately?
I am trying to track him down.. Thanks in advance.
ShadowAce
From andy at britishideas.com Mon Nov 22 19:43:04 2004
From: andy at britishideas.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Mon Nov 22 19:43:54 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Wyle E
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
Go to: http://www.happy-wanderers.com - that is their web site.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
ShadowAce
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:39 PM
To: AZ Geocaching list
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Wyle E
Anyone heard from Larry from Team Wyle "E" lately?
I am trying to track him down.. Thanks in advance.
ShadowAce
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From teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net Mon Nov 22 19:45:04 2004
From: teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Mon Nov 22 19:45:29 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
In-Reply-To: <015f01c4d055$01dc5130$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Message-ID: <002a01c4d106$7048e190$6801a8c0@business>
Poor eyesight? Old age? :)
It was a rhetorical question, kid. Show some respect for your elders.
Thanks for the download link.
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From hunting at shakabruddah.com Mon Nov 22 19:43:57 2004
From: hunting at shakabruddah.com (ShadowAce)
Date: Mon Nov 22 19:45:57 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Wyle E
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
Thanks Andy.. Looks like it will be a few weeks until I hear from them. :)
Everyone be safe out there..
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
Andrew Ayre
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:43 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Team Wyle E
Go to: http://www.happy-wanderers.com - that is their web site.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
ShadowAce
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:39 PM
To: AZ Geocaching list
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Wyle E
Anyone heard from Larry from Team Wyle "E" lately?
I am trying to track him down.. Thanks in advance.
ShadowAce
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From bcasteel at uccinc.net Mon Nov 22 19:46:27 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Mon Nov 22 19:46:51 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Wyle E
References:
Message-ID: <006c01c4d106$a1062540$3401a8c0@tyrael>
You won't be able to track them down, as they are in an untrackable
motorhome cruising Australia for the month of November. That's why their
sat-tracking system shows their RV having been camped in Riverside, CA the
entire month.
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ShadowAce"
To: "AZ Geocaching list"
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:39 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Wyle E
> Anyone heard from Larry from Team Wyle "E" lately?
>
> I am trying to track him down.. Thanks in advance.
>
> ShadowAce
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From renner001 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 23 20:08:38 2004
From: renner001 at yahoo.com (Bob Renner)
Date: Tue Nov 23 20:09:07 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Sale on NiMH batteries
Message-ID: <20041124030838.96734.qmail@web54710.mail.yahoo.com>
Without trying to start a listserve debate on what
type of bateries are best, I just wanted to let
everyone know that Fry's is having a sale on AA NiMH
batteries. They have a 10 pack of Lenmar 2000 mAh
batteries for $9.99. They also have a 4-slot charger
and 4 2300 mAh batteries for $9.99. I'm not sure why
only the charger comes with 2300 mAh batteries and all
of the multi-packs are only 2000 mAh. Anyway, it
looks like a good price.
Bob
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From arizcowboy at hotmail.com Wed Nov 24 00:46:15 2004
From: arizcowboy at hotmail.com (Roping The Wind)
Date: Wed Nov 24 00:47:26 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] LOL
In-Reply-To: <20041124030838.96734.qmail@web54710.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID:
This is geocaching related... since our geocaching mobile's require so much
of it to get around to all those caches we seek!.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
THE OIL SHORTAGE
A lot of folks can't understand
how we came to have
an oil shortage here in America.
~~~
Well, there's a very simple answer.
~~~
Nobody bothered to check the oil.
~~~
We just didn't know we were getting low.
~~~
The reason for that is purely geographical.
~~~
Our OIL is located in
~~~
Alaska
~~~
California
~~~
Oklahoma
and
TEXAS
~~~
~~~
Our
DIPSTICKS
are located in
Washington DC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
AINT THAT THE TRUTH!!!!
Scott
Team Ropingthewind
From sonoralovesmommy at yahoo.com Wed Nov 24 19:41:17 2004
From: sonoralovesmommy at yahoo.com (Gale)
Date: Wed Nov 24 19:41:45 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy Thanksgiving
Message-ID: <20041125024117.92487.qmail@web54206.mail.yahoo.com>
Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. I hope you will have a safe and happy holiday and holiday weekend.
Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking
Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden. Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
"Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
Rudyard Kipling , The Explorer 1898
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From ark45 at cox.net Wed Nov 24 20:01:33 2004
From: ark45 at cox.net (Randy Kinkel)
Date: Wed Nov 24 20:02:33 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy Thanksgiving
References: <20041125024117.92487.qmail@web54206.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001301c4d29b$1842eea0$6401a8c0@randy>
Same here from Mozartman.
I'm thankful for geocaching and all of you,
have a good holiday.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gale
To: list
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:41 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. I hope you will have a safe and happy holiday and holiday weekend.
Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking
Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden. Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
"Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
Rudyard Kipling , The Explorer 1898
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From vicki.wright at fmcsa.dot.gov Wed Nov 24 22:12:06 2004
From: vicki.wright at fmcsa.dot.gov (Wright, Vicki)
Date: Wed Nov 24 22:12:54 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy Thanksgiving. . .
Message-ID: <5C35A5C1FEE19443943D6AA0A1033C660EE42A@mcmail02.fmcsa.dot.gov>
Remembering that every day is a blessing and every meal is a feast...hope to see you out there geocaching soon!
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From scott at myblueheaven.com Thu Nov 25 10:44:44 2004
From: scott at myblueheaven.com (Scott Wood)
Date: Thu Nov 25 10:47:00 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy Thanksgiving. . .
In-Reply-To: <5C35A5C1FEE19443943D6AA0A1033C660EE42A@mcmail02.fmcsa.dot. gov>
References: <5C35A5C1FEE19443943D6AA0A1033C660EE42A@mcmail02.fmcsa.dot.gov>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041125104306.01ae4be8@mail.myblueheaven.com>
Team My Blue Heaven would also like to wish a Happy Thanksgiving to
everyone on the list.
We are slowly getting back into geocaching, and for that we are truly
thankful, as it is something that we have enjoyed since we first
started. Of course, I have found more caches in Wisconsin recently than I
have in Arizona, but I have been in Wisconsin more than I have been in
Arizona. :-)
From wburkett at yahoo.com Sat Nov 27 12:11:50 2004
From: wburkett at yahoo.com (Bill Burkett)
Date: Sat Nov 27 12:12:29 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
In-Reply-To: <012401c4d03c$021e93b0$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Message-ID:
So, I decided to download this and play with it. Pretty cool! But it only
creates straight-line routes for me. For instance, if I tell it to route me
from home here in Mayer, Arizona, to Phoenix, all I get is ?go 59.9 miles
southwest to the destination.? Very helpful.
The Help file says to make a change on the Routing tab of the Preferences
window, but there is no Routing tab. Anyone else run into this?
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian
Casteel
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:36 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=575
* Brings Garmin's award-winning auto-routing navigation to your laptop,
utilizing the larger screen to display a large map and easy-to-read
directions.
* Performs turn-by-turn route assistance and previewing, including spoken
turn reminders and automatic recalculation when off-route.
* Tracks your location using either north-up orientation or
vehicle-direction up.
* Finds places and easily routes to all points of interest and addresses
that your MapSource product provides.
* Allows you to customize the places that you want to find and route to
quickly using 'Find'; for example, 'Nearest Gas' or 'Nearest Italian Food'.
* Provides driver with information, including upcoming cross-streets, street
addresses, speed, bearing, and elevation.
* Provides multiple trip computers that allow you to track distance, time,
and speeds for business or personal use.
* Allows importing and exporting of user data to and from MapSource files.
* Works with all MapSource products. Note that BlueChart and MetroGuide 5 or
greater will not support some features.
* Designed for use with the GPS 18, but will work with almost any Garmin GPS
over serial or USB.
* Available to MapSource owners as a significant improvement and expansion
of the real-time tracking capability. Takes advantage of your installed map
product's capabilities. For example, you can find an address and it will
auto-route on any auto-routing map, like City Select.
Looks like the link is broken right now though.
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: Team Tierra Buena
To: Arizona Geocaching
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:10 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin nRoute
I?ve seen references to nRoute on Garmin?s website, but I can?t get any
clear idea of who can use it. I know it?s downloadable, but is it only for
certain Garmin models or software? Or is it something that can be used by
anyone, or at least anyone with a Garmin GPS and/or Garmin map software?
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From hunting at shakabruddah.com Sat Nov 27 22:12:54 2004
From: hunting at shakabruddah.com (ShadowAce)
Date: Sat Nov 27 22:15:15 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
Message-ID:
I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
This weekend while finding caches we found a container dropped in place by
another cacher. The reason was they could not find the container at the
cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
Now we come along alittle later and find the container and check but it
only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep searching and
within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the next cacher that
comes by and logs the wrong one?
Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me. I have also
emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe and sound. The
other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a complete search..
Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements cachers can do?
From arizcowboy at hotmail.com Sat Nov 27 23:01:35 2004
From: arizcowboy at hotmail.com (Roping The Wind)
Date: Sat Nov 27 23:02:33 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
>From: "ShadowAce"
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: "AZ Geocaching list"
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
>Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:12:54 -0700
>
>I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
>
> This weekend while finding caches we found a container dropped in place
>by
>another cacher. The reason was they could not find the container at the
>cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
>
> Now we come along alittle later and find the container and check but it
>only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep searching and
>within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
>
> Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the next cacher
>that
>comes by and logs the wrong one?
>
>Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me. I have also
>emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe and sound.
>The
>other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a complete
>search..
>
>
>Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements cachers can do?
I agree with you! That is lame. I applaud you for taking the 'new' and
unofficial cache with you and hope that the cache owner deletes the find.
Another thing that seriously irks me is when I see a log that reads "saw the
cache, but couldnt get it... claiming it as a find". That too is lame in my
opinion. Many urban cache these days would be 'easily' had if you could say
you saw it but couldnt log it. 90% of the challenge on these micro urban
caches these days is trying to get it and log it, without being seen (a
challenge I dont care for anymore.. but that is just me). I NEVER log a find
if my name cant be in the logbook. NO LOG, NO FIND. I cant tell you how many
times I have gone for caches, saw them but couldnt get to them without
giving it away because of too many people in the area. I had to make several
trips before finally getting it. Then, I later see a log by someone that
says they saw it but couldnt get to it because too many people around. Then,
they claim it as a find. They are only cheating themselves. I will continue
to play in a way that is fair and honest to me.
Scott
Team RTW
From george at customcals.com Sat Nov 27 23:13:26 2004
From: george at customcals.com (George Harris)
Date: Sat Nov 27 23:09:33 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
References:
Message-ID: <010201c4d511$61636240$b600a8c0@athlon>
Naw, you did good. You're going to be flush with cache containers soon.
=TDP
----- Original Message -----
From: "ShadowAce"
To: "AZ Geocaching list"
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:12 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
> I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
>
> This weekend while finding caches we found a container dropped in place
by
> another cacher. The reason was they could not find the container at the
> cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
>
> Now we come along alittle later and find the container and check but it
> only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep searching and
> within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
>
> Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the next cacher
that
> comes by and logs the wrong one?
>
> Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me. I have also
> emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe and sound.
The
> other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a complete
search..
>
>
> Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements cachers can do?
>
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From gobuch at prodigy.net Sat Nov 27 23:58:55 2004
From: gobuch at prodigy.net (GREGG OBUCH)
Date: Sat Nov 27 23:59:28 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20041128065855.22729.qmail@web80210.mail.yahoo.com>
Ya done good. I would have done the same thing.
I wonder just how long they looked before they left the other cache container. And I wonder just how many "spare" containers they carry with them...
ShadowAce wrote:
I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
This weekend while finding caches we found a container dropped in place by
another cacher. The reason was they could not find the container at the
cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
Now we come along alittle later and find the container and check but it
only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep searching and
within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the next cacher that
comes by and logs the wrong one?
Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me. I have also
emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe and sound. The
other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a complete search..
Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements cachers can do?
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From Lrsmith at cableone.net Sun Nov 28 09:20:58 2004
From: Lrsmith at cableone.net (Robert & Linda Smith)
Date: Sun Nov 28 09:21:26 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <41A9FAEA.5020409@cableone.net>
We agree with both of you, No Find, No Sign.. Several times my wife and
I have been "In the area" only to come back several times to make the
"Find" I will give a newbie a little attitude if they don't know
exactly how to log a "No Find" on the web site. I have seen this a time
or two. Dropping a new container, NO that is plain wrong.
Bob and Linda Smith, Petite Elite
>> From: "ShadowAce"
>>
>> I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
>>
>> This weekend while finding caches we found a container dropped in
>> place by
>> another cacher. The reason was they could not find the container at the
>> cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
>>
>> Now we come along alittle later and find the container and check but it
>> only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep searching and
>> within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
>>
>> Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the next
>> cacher that
>> comes by and logs the wrong one?
>>
>> Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me. I have
>> also
>> emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe and
>> sound. The
>> other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a complete
>> search..
>>
>>
>> Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements cachers can
>> do?
>
>
>
> I agree with you! That is lame. I applaud you for taking the 'new' and
> unofficial cache with you and hope that the cache owner deletes the
> find. Another thing that seriously irks me is when I see a log that
> reads "saw the cache, but couldnt get it... claiming it as a find".
> That too is lame in my opinion. Many urban cache these days would be
> 'easily' had if you could say you saw it but couldnt log it. 90% of
> the challenge on these micro urban caches these days is trying to get
> it and log it, without being seen (a challenge I dont care for
> anymore.. but that is just me). I NEVER log a find if my name cant be
> in the logbook. NO LOG, NO FIND. I cant tell you how many times I have
> gone for caches, saw them but couldnt get to them without giving it
> away because of too many people in the area. I had to make several
> trips before finally getting it. Then, I later see a log by someone
> that says they saw it but couldnt get to it because too many people
> around. Then, they claim it as a find. They are only cheating
> themselves. I will continue to play in a way that is fair and honest
> to me.
>
> Scott
> Team RTW
From cordh at mchsi.com Sun Nov 28 09:37:10 2004
From: cordh at mchsi.com (cordh@mchsi.com)
Date: Sun Nov 28 09:37:50 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
Message-ID: <200411280937.10849.cordh@mchsi.com>
That's a new twist! Kinda makes one feel stupid, like why repeatedly hike a
mile at extreme angles, climb around on a rock pile, full of resident,
vemonous critters, just to log a micro such as Valley Vista when you can fill
an Altoid with junk, drop it in the vicinity with a "logged" entry.
Kinda agree with RTW, otherwise: Why participate? Suppose everyone in the
"sport" is there for different reasons.
From bcasteel at uccinc.net Sun Nov 28 09:41:28 2004
From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sun Nov 28 09:42:02 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
References:
Message-ID: <018501c4d569$1bd8ec60$3401a8c0@tyrael>
The way I see it is simple. It's no different than logging a find on a
cache you hide. The ultimate effect becomes the cacher cheating themselves
and padding their numbers for a variety of reasons. If you're close enough
to see the cache, get the friggin' thing and sign the logbook. If the area
is protected by a rattlesnake, call it a day and try again later. If bees
are present, either be stupid and take your chances, or...come back another
day. You may have 'found' the cache, but without physical contact and
putting pen (or pencil) to paper and validating your visit, you haven't
'FOUND' the cache. Virtuals/locationless clearly have different rules, but
those are understood and don't apply in the case of traditional caches.
Replacing a cache that you can't find, and subsequently logging a find is
really no different than logging a find on your own cache, except for the
fact that you don't own it. It's one thing if you're replacing a cache for
someone in the event that it is KNOWN to be MIA, but I don't think you
should really be logging a find in that case. Replacing a cache for someone
suggests having already found it, because you should know where it was
originally hidden.
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ShadowAce"
To: "AZ Geocaching list"
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:12 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
>I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
>
> This weekend while finding caches we found a container dropped in place by
> another cacher. The reason was they could not find the container at the
> cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
>
> Now we come along alittle later and find the container and check but it
> only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep searching and
> within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
>
> Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the next cacher that
> comes by and logs the wrong one?
>
> Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me. I have also
> emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe and sound.
> The
> other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a complete
> search..
>
>
> Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements cachers can do?
>
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From ark45 at cox.net Sun Nov 28 09:46:18 2004
From: ark45 at cox.net (Randy Kinkel)
Date: Sun Nov 28 09:47:16 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
References:
<41A9FAEA.5020409@cableone.net>
Message-ID: <000801c4d569$d0526680$6401a8c0@randy>
Maybe this person doesn't really understand the rules of geocaching (I'm
giving them the benefit of the doubt here, obviously.)... Did you email them
and let them know this is not the way to do it? They may have thought the
cache was gone and that they were helping, and not have known the protocol
of what to do next... Still, not the right thing to do.
Mozartman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert & Linda Smith"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
> We agree with both of you, No Find, No Sign.. Several times my wife and
> I have been "In the area" only to come back several times to make the
> "Find" I will give a newbie a little attitude if they don't know
> exactly how to log a "No Find" on the web site. I have seen this a time
> or two. Dropping a new container, NO that is plain wrong.
>
> Bob and Linda Smith, Petite Elite
>
> >> From: "ShadowAce"
> >>
> >> I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
> >>
> >> This weekend while finding caches we found a container dropped in
> >> place by
> >> another cacher. The reason was they could not find the container at the
> >> cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
> >>
> >> Now we come along alittle later and find the container and check but
it
> >> only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep searching and
> >> within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
> >>
> >> Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the next
> >> cacher that
> >> comes by and logs the wrong one?
> >>
> >> Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me. I have
> >> also
> >> emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe and
> >> sound. The
> >> other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a complete
> >> search..
> >>
> >>
> >> Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements cachers can
> >> do?
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree with you! That is lame. I applaud you for taking the 'new' and
> > unofficial cache with you and hope that the cache owner deletes the
> > find. Another thing that seriously irks me is when I see a log that
> > reads "saw the cache, but couldnt get it... claiming it as a find".
> > That too is lame in my opinion. Many urban cache these days would be
> > 'easily' had if you could say you saw it but couldnt log it. 90% of
> > the challenge on these micro urban caches these days is trying to get
> > it and log it, without being seen (a challenge I dont care for
> > anymore.. but that is just me). I NEVER log a find if my name cant be
> > in the logbook. NO LOG, NO FIND. I cant tell you how many times I have
> > gone for caches, saw them but couldnt get to them without giving it
> > away because of too many people in the area. I had to make several
> > trips before finally getting it. Then, I later see a log by someone
> > that says they saw it but couldnt get to it because too many people
> > around. Then, they claim it as a find. They are only cheating
> > themselves. I will continue to play in a way that is fair and honest
> > to me.
> >
> > Scott
> > Team RTW
>
>
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From tacodust1 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 28 10:13:27 2004
From: tacodust1 at hotmail.com (michele hawley)
Date: Sun Nov 28 10:14:44 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
I'm suprised that somebody would log a find like that, I thought it was bad
enough to go check up on one of mine and find it in a totally diferent spot
than where I put it! But, that I guess has good intentions, but, Isn't that
just a NO, NO. It should be a dnf or they should've contacted the owner
before taking that leap! So even though what you did might seem like a bossy
move I think it was the smartest thing to do Mr. Shadow ;)
>From: "ShadowAce"
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: "AZ Geocaching list"
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
>Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:12:54 -0700
>
>I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
>
> This weekend while finding caches we found a container dropped in place
>by
>another cacher. The reason was they could not find the container at the
>cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
>
> Now we come along alittle later and find the container and check but it
>only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep searching and
>within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
>
> Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the next cacher
>that
>comes by and logs the wrong one?
>
>Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me. I have also
>emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe and sound.
>The
>other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a complete
>search..
>
>
>Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements cachers can do?
>
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From slavoy at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 28 17:52:31 2004
From: slavoy at sbcglobal.net (Steve)
Date: Sun Nov 28 17:53:11 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2070
In-Reply-To: <20041128190003.968EC17473A@ns2>
Message-ID: <20041129005231.62475.qmail@web81106.mail.yahoo.com>
To all those geocachers that sometimes find a cache, but cannot get to it because of muggles watching. I have found the perfect answer. I always carry some plastic trash bags in my geocaching backpack. I simply get out one of the bags, start cleaning up litter {rarely have I been in the area of a cache where there wasn't some} then when I find the cache, or get to the cache location, I simply pick it up and continue picking up litter until I am a little ways away from the cache location. I take care of signing the log, etc. then return to the cache site and replace the cache. Once people see I am picking up garbage, they do not pay any attention to me. Works every time!
See ya out on the geocaching trail. InspGadget
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From dthompsen at yahoo.com Sun Nov 28 19:57:57 2004
From: dthompsen at yahoo.com (David Thompsen)
Date: Sun Nov 28 19:58:32 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20041129025757.17374.qmail@web51903.mail.yahoo.com>
Heck... that's nothing.
There's a guy out there I've seen that shatters all concepts of caching morality.
One must ask... What would you do?
1) A guy.... drops off a container with his signature in it when he couldn't find the original container.
2) A guy ... claims a find when the container is known to be gone.
3) A guy... finds a cache. The container is changed by the owner slightly because the original container was muggled. The guy goes back out and claims the find again, even though the new container is in exactly the same place.
4) A guy... travels out of town and finds a cache that is known to be gone, but since the cache owner has long since abandoned Geocaching.com and that cache, the guy feels safe in logging a find, knowing that no one will call him on it.
5) A guy... finds a cache by himself --- or alternately, his caching partner finds it without him. In both cases, the find is claimed by both parties.
6 A guy... claims a find, when the container is gone --- but he reached the spot that the GPSr said, so he felt like claiming a find.
7) guy... demands help on a puzzle he can't figure out since he's coming to the area, and it's not worth his time to try to solve it. This guy gets indignant when he's told that it's a puzzle, and not a traditional.
What would you think of this guy?
Everyone plays the recreation/activity/sport/hobby the same way... according to their own morals.
Of course... your mileage may vary.
---Dave, The Cow Spots
michele hawley wrote:
I'm suprised that somebody would log a find like that, I thought it was bad
enough to go check up on one of mine and find it in a totally diferent spot
than where I put it! But, that I guess has good intentions, but, Isn't that
just a NO, NO. It should be a dnf or they should've contacted the owner
before taking that leap! So even though what you did might seem like a bossy
move I think it was the smartest thing to do Mr. Shadow ;)
>From: "ShadowAce"
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: "AZ Geocaching list"
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
>Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:12:54 -0700
>
>I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
>
> This weekend while finding caches we found a container dropped in place
>by
>another cacher. The reason was they could not find the container at the
>cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
>
> Now we come along alittle later and find the container and check but it
>only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep searching and
>within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
>
> Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the next cacher
>that
>comes by and logs the wrong one?
>
>Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me. I have also
>emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe and sound.
>The
>other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a complete
>search..
>
>
>Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements cachers can do?
>
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From teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net Sun Nov 28 22:52:03 2004
From: teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Sun Nov 28 22:52:43 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
In-Reply-To: <20041129025757.17374.qmail@web51903.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001501c4d5d7$8ea21b90$6c01a8c0@business>
There's a guy out there I've seen that shatters all concepts of caching
morality.
One must ask... What would you do?
And one (this one anyway) must reply. Nothing. With one exception -
exception being when the cacher's actions have the potential to
compromise the experience for other cachers, e.g. a situation like that
described by ShadowAce that started this thread.
If you play golf, you learn early on that there are an incredible number
of golfers who claim scores that bear no relationship to the actual
number of strokes they took during the round, which of course is what
the score is supposed to represent. Does one call cheat? Well if there's
money on the game, especially your money, or some kind of trophy, you do
what you can to keep it honest. But if it's just someone you got paired
up with by the starter, you ignore it.
I'm somewhat less bothered by those who rationalize a not-found into a
found than I am by those who don't log their not-founds at all. At least
the "creative finders" are providing information to the cache owner and
future seekers. The people who don't log NFs do a disservice to the
entire caching community. Perhaps they couldn't find it because it's
gone missing - a fact that both the owner and seekers who would prefer
to avoid a wild goose chase really need to know. But, hey, their numbers
look good, and that's all that matters to them.
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From Dan.Koch at Eclipsys.com Mon Nov 29 09:49:15 2004
From: Dan.Koch at Eclipsys.com (Koch, Dan)
Date: Mon Nov 29 09:49:58 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
Message-ID:
Way to go ShadowAce!
What you have here is but the latest in a long line of such actions. I do
not know of whom you speak (haven't bothered to go look it up), but I have
joked for months with other cachers about logs where a certain cacher hasn't
been able to find a cache so they hide a new container. I've seen it happen
many, many times before.
And, yes, it is 'most lame' for them to do this and you were entirely right
in removing the fake cache. Now, if only the real cache owner(s) would
remove the fradulent found log(s)...
LazyK - Dan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On
> Behalf Of ShadowAce
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:13 PM
> To: AZ Geocaching list
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
>
> I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
>
> This weekend while finding caches we found a container
> dropped in place by
> another cacher. The reason was they could not find the
> container at the
> cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
>
> Now we come along alittle later and find the container and
> check but it
> only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep
> searching and
> within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
>
> Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the
> next cacher that
> comes by and logs the wrong one?
>
> Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me.
> I have also
> emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe
> and sound. The
> other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a
> complete search..
>
>
> Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements
> cachers can do?
>
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From Dan.Koch at Eclipsys.com Mon Nov 29 09:50:51 2004
From: Dan.Koch at Eclipsys.com (Koch, Dan)
Date: Mon Nov 29 09:51:36 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
Message-ID:
Did anyone else get any 'hidden message' from this post???
LazyK - Dan
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[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of David
Thompsen
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 7:58 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
Heck... that's nothing.
There's a guy out there I've seen that shatters all concepts of
caching morality.
One must ask... What would you do?
1) A guy.... drops off a container with his signature in it when he
couldn't find the original container.
2) A guy ... claims a find when the container is known to be gone.
3) A guy... finds a cache. The container is changed by the owner
slightly because the original container was muggled. The guy goes back out
and claims the find again, even though the new container is in exactly the
same place.
4) A guy... travels out of town and finds a cache that is known to
be gone, but since the cache owner has long since abandoned Geocaching.com
and that cache, the guy feels safe in logging a find, knowing that no one
will call him on it.
5) A guy... finds a cache by himself --- or alternately, his
caching partner finds it without him. In both cases, the find is claimed by
both parties.
6 A guy... claims a find, when the container is gone --- but he
reached the spot that the GPSr said, so he felt like claiming a find.
7) guy... demands help on a puzzle he can't figure out since he's
coming to the area, and it's not worth his time to try to solve it. This
guy gets indignant when he's told that it's a puzzle, and not a traditional.
What would you think of this guy?
Everyone plays the recreation/activity/sport/hobby the same way...
according to their own morals.
Of course... your mileage may vary.
---Dave, The Cow Spots
michele hawley wrote:
I'm suprised that somebody would log a find like that, I
thought it was bad
enough to go check up on one of mine and find it in a
totally diferent spot
than where I put it! But, that I guess has good intentions,
but, Isn't that
just a NO, NO. It should be a dnf or they should've
contacted the owner
before taking that leap! So even though what you did might
seem like a bossy
move I think it was the smartest thing to do Mr. Shadow ;)
>From: "ShadowAce"
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: "AZ Geocaching list"
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
>Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:12:54 -0700
>
>I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for
me?
>
> This weekend while finding caches we found a container
dropped in pla ce
>by
>another cacher. The reason was they could not find the
container at the
>cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a
find..
>
> Now we come along alittle later and find the container and
check but it
>only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep
searching and
>within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
>
> Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the
next cacher
>that
>comes by and logs the wrong one?
>
>Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with
me. I have also
>emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is
safe and sound.
>The
>other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a
complete
>search..
>
>
>Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements
cachers can do?
>
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From dthompsen at yahoo.com Mon Nov 29 10:29:13 2004
From: dthompsen at yahoo.com (David Thompsen)
Date: Mon Nov 29 10:29:49 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] On a happier note.....
In-Reply-To:
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From: bcasteel at uccinc.net (Brian Casteel)
Date: Mon Nov 29 17:41:02 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] On a happier note.....
References: <20041129172913.28650.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004901c4d675$2ee984b0$3401a8c0@tyrael>
Congrats!
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Subject: [Az-Geocaching] On a happier note.....
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From jrnc at mchsi.com Mon Nov 29 19:14:11 2004
From: jrnc at mchsi.com (jr davis)
Date: Mon Nov 29 19:14:48 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] On a happier note.....
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Congratulations to Shadow Ace and Crew for making over 1000 finds. Team AJ.JR
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From teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net Mon Nov 29 20:58:17 2004
From: teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Mon Nov 29 20:58:45 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <003201c4d690$d4052c40$6c01a8c0@business>
> Did anyone else get any 'hidden message' from this post???
Yeah, but I wasn't going there.
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
From graldrich at gmail.com Mon Nov 29 22:05:23 2004
From: graldrich at gmail.com (Guy Aldrich)
Date: Mon Nov 29 23:52:41 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
In-Reply-To: <003201c4d690$d4052c40$6c01a8c0@business>
References:
<003201c4d690$d4052c40$6c01a8c0@business>
Message-ID:
In the words of the famous evilfish "This just goes to show you no
good deed goes un punished"thats all I have to say!
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:58:17 -0700, Team Tierra Buena
wrote:
> > Did anyone else get any 'hidden message' from this post???
>
> Yeah, but I wasn't going there.
>
> Steve
> Team Tierra Buena
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From EvilFish at cox.net Tue Nov 30 19:27:37 2004
From: EvilFish at cox.net (EvilFISH)
Date: Tue Nov 30 19:28:13 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
References: <003201c4d690$d4052c40$6c01a8c0@business>
Message-ID: <000d01c4d74d$52e046a0$20130244@fishkiller>
Well we made the drive to where our Trusty GPS said and did some searching,
couldn't find anything that fit the clue, made a call to the AZGEOCACHING
hot line, even knocked on the door..
found a White peice of Velcro but no cache So with the advice from the help
line proceeded to empty the cache mobile's glove box of a new log sheet and
green cache container with white velco signed log and replaced...
well truth be known after a email from the owner will leave the fake
container until we can again search for the real one...
[last edit: 7/3/2003 9:45:13 PM PST]
Well what a difference a day makes!!!!
left the fake container 10am
what changed??? there was vehicle in the driveway without spiderwebs and NO
ICE CREAM truck driving around distractin us from the in plain site cache
[last edit: 7/4/2003 11:44:00 AM PST]
now the best part
This just goes to show you no good deed goes un punished, the log
sheet for this cache and I guess container was left a another cache that we
couldn't find due to Ice Cream truck distraction, see is any one home. That
is how the log sheet in a new cache just happend to contain a signature of
Team Evil Fish and not a internet log TEF will
loctate this cache and log a real find and even sign the logsheet
again :)..
As stated we at Team Evil Fish made the 510 foot walk to this cache at
11am July 18th as for no other reason than to avoid the AZGeocaching hot
line advice considering the history of this now disguised contianer, the GPS
took a spell to settle down and give us a better reason to avoid bushlifting
crossed of the first signature and signed on the next line.
Thanks for the cache.
[last edit: 7/19/2003 9:42:10 AM PST]
[view/edit logs/images on a separate page]
[upload an image for this log]
July 15, 2003 by bmay (48 found)
Sorry for the late posting, but I believe I may have been the actual
first finder. The log had Team Evil Fish on the second line, but no other
names so I signed right below them. What ever happened to them, anyway?
Haven't seen them around much...
Anyway, thanks Graldrich for the hide and the find and all that great
stuff.
[view this log on a separate page]
July 13, 2003 by AzCelts (473 found)
After reading cache description, I decided the part that stated the
hardest part is finding how to get to it didn't apply to me; after all I can
read a map, know the difference between magnetic and true, and can even
follow a small arrow in heavy traffic. A loop and a half around the
neighborhood and I was slightly, slightly humbled. Signed in and made no
trades.
Thanks for a fun series of caches.
[view this log on a separate page]
July 12, 2003 by TeamBlunder (820 found)
Wasn't too hard to find a way into or find the cache.
Thanks for another fun cache.
TeamBlunder
Joe, Laura, Brad, & Erik
[view this log on a separate page]
July 12, 2003 by RandMan (503 found)
This is a familiar area. I built and repaired swimming pools around
this area for over twenty years. One of the companies I worked for in the
80's had an office about 500 ft from this cache.
I located the cache and signed the log at 8:10 this morning. Thanks
graldrich for the cache.
Rand (RandMan)
Find #323
[view this log on a separate page]
July 11, 2003 by Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking (354 found)
Okay so for a couple of days we weren't sure if we were the first to
find. However we have since confirmed that the log sheet is recycled from
another cache and yes indeed we can claim first-to-find honors! Yipee,
Yahoo!
Gale stayed in the truck with the little geo-dog while Mike tracked
this one down. He got caught red-handed by a friendly neighbor. Mike, who by
natural appearances is the kind of shady looking character you don't want to
meet in isolated dark areas, immediately dropped the cover story and
explained geocaching. The neighbor thought it was fun. While Mike signed the
log, the old man walked up to my truck. Of course I stuck with the cover
story *lie*. The old man was laughing at me and I never caught on. This was
a fun cache for me in a familiar neighborhood (in my teen years).
By now, I'm sure, all the neighbors know about the cache. I think
geocachers will amuse them.
[last edit: 7/14/2003 8:42:31 PM PST]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Aldrich"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Claiming a find when you can't..
> In the words of the famous evilfish "This just goes to show you no
> good deed goes un punished"thats all I have to say!
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:58:17 -0700, Team Tierra Buena
> wrote:
>> > Did anyone else get any 'hidden message' from this post???
>>
>> Yeah, but I wasn't going there.
>>
>> Steve
>> Team Tierra Buena
>>
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From scottsparks1 at mchsi.com Tue Nov 30 07:33:12 2004
From: scottsparks1 at mchsi.com (Scott Sparks)
Date: Tue Nov 30 19:28:48 2004
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: On a happier note.....
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> From: David Thompsen
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] On a happier note.....
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
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> Arizona has a new member of the 1000 finds club. Shout out to ShadowAce!
Congrats, ShadowAce!
-- Sprocket