?Re: [Az-Geocaching] Use of Geocaching.com for commercial solicitation

Sat, 29 May 2004 5:58:36 -0400

Not really giving the guy an option to ask, nor to sell me anything, I don't know what the true motive is.  What I do know from the messages he left, was that Ken had applied with them, and that they were wanting to talk to me to get a character reference in order to get him started.  What exactly that means, and in what capacity, I do not know.

Brian
Team A.I.

> 
> From: "George Harris" <george@customcals.com>
> Date: 2004/05/29 Sat AM 12:12:59 EDT
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Subject: ?Re: [Az-Geocaching] Use of Geocaching.com for commercial solicitation
> 
> You can get penis enlargement pills on geocaching.com??!? Crap, don't let
> Sweet Pea see that.  She'll melt my credit card.
> 
> I'm a little confused at this scenario.  Was this a genuine character
> reference call, or was the caller using the "character reference" comment to
> get his foot in the door, with the only purpose to see insurance?
> 
> And with the bad press Ken has been getting on this list lately, how in the
> world could he use people on it for references??
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian - Team A.I." <teamai@cox.net>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 8:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Use of Geocaching.com for commercial
> solicitation
> 
> 
> > I have a feeling I was one of the first on that list of people he's given
> > them to call as a character reference.  They've called several times,
> > leaving messages on both my home and cellphones.  The home phone I don't
> > know if I ever gave Ken, but it is a listed number.  As far as my
> cellphone
> > is concerned, I'm not sure where that number came into play, but they have
> > been annoying in their frequency of calls, none of which I've answered
> > (after hearing a voice mail they left on my home phone).
> >
> > In my experience, it's always customary to ASK a person you are using as a
> > character reference, and to perhaps give them a call when the hiring
> process
> > is in full swing so the call from the employer for this type of
> information
> > isn't unexpected and doesn't catch you off guard.  I was never asked to be
> a
> > character reference, and in all honesty I would refuse for the simple fact
> > that I don't know him well enough to be any kind of character reference,
> and
> > my contact with him has been very limited.
> >
> > I am very disappointed on his actions for doing this to more than one
> > person, and it does indeed appear that he neglected to ask permission to
> use
> > anyone as a character reference, and for the fact that Primerica is so
> > aggressive in their tactics that as a secondary portion of the
> conversation
> > they try to sell you something like an insurance policy.  Give me a
> freaking
> > break already.  Knowing now that he's done this, I don't see it being a
> bad
> > idea at all to report this to Geocaching.com.  It's no better than trying
> to
> > harvest e-mail addresses from the main site in an effort to sell penis
> > enlargement pills.
> >
> > Brian
> > Team A.I.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "SquishyGecko" <squishygecko@yahoo.com>
> > To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:18 PM
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Use of Geocaching.com for commercial solicitation
> >
> >
> > > This morning I received a telephone call from someone named Ron Adams,
> > > stating that he was doing a "character reference" for Highpointer.
> After
> > > returning the call and informing Mr. Adams that I had never met
> > Highpointer,
> > > he proceeded to state that Highpointer had told Mr. Adams that I was
> > married
> > > with two children, then attempted to sell me an insurance policy.
> > >
> > > Not only do I consider this a gross misrepresentation on the part of Mr.
> > > Adams, but a gross violation of my privacy by Highpointer.  I will be
> > > contacting Geocaching.com to determine what violations of Geocaching.com
> > > regulations may have been committed by Highpointer.  I strongly
> encourage
> > > anyone else who receives such a call to ask Mr. Adams to add you to his
> > "Do
> > > Not Call" list, and then report the incident to Geocaching.com.
> > >
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