[Az-Geocaching] Use of Geocaching.com for commercial solicitation
David Thompsen
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Fri, 28 May 2004 21:07:51 -0700 (PDT)
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Now this all makes a tremendous amount of sense. The minute you said Primerica, Brian, I understood exactly what was going on here. A quick search on the web of Primerica will show a... shall we say... "varied and colorful" view of the company and its business practices.
"Brian - Team A.I." <teamai@cox.net> wrote:I have a feeling I was one of the first on that list of people he's given
them to call as a character reference. They've called several times,
leaving messages on both my home and cellphones. The home phone I don't
know if I ever gave Ken, but it is a listed number. As far as my cellphone
is concerned, I'm not sure where that number came into play, but they have
been annoying in their frequency of calls, none of which I've answered
(after hearing a voice mail they left on my home phone).
In my experience, it's always customary to ASK a person you are using as a
character reference, and to perhaps give them a call when the hiring process
is in full swing so the call from the employer for this type of information
isn't unexpected and doesn't catch you off guard. I was never asked to be a
character reference, and in all honesty I would refuse for the simple fact
that I don't know him well enough to be any kind of character reference, and
my contact with him has been very limited.
I am very disappointed on his actions for doing this to more than one
person, and it does indeed appear that he neglected to ask permission to use
anyone as a character reference, and for the fact that Primerica is so
aggressive in their tactics that as a secondary portion of the conversation
they try to sell you something like an insurance policy. Give me a freaking
break already. Knowing now that he's done this, I don't see it being a bad
idea at all to report this to Geocaching.com. It's no better than trying to
harvest e-mail addresses from the main site in an effort to sell penis
enlargement pills.
Brian
Team A.I.
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From: "SquishyGecko"
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Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Use of Geocaching.com for commercial solicitation
> This morning I received a telephone call from someone named Ron Adams,
> stating that he was doing a "character reference" for Highpointer. After
> returning the call and informing Mr. Adams that I had never met
Highpointer,
> he proceeded to state that Highpointer had told Mr. Adams that I was
married
> with two children, then attempted to sell me an insurance policy.
>
> Not only do I consider this a gross misrepresentation on the part of Mr.
> Adams, but a gross violation of my privacy by Highpointer. I will be
> contacting Geocaching.com to determine what violations of Geocaching.com
> regulations may have been committed by Highpointer. I strongly encourage
> anyone else who receives such a call to ask Mr. Adams to add you to his
"Do
> Not Call" list, and then report the incident to Geocaching.com.
>
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<DIV>Now this all makes a tremendous amount of sense. The minute you said Primerica, Brian, I understood exactly what was going on here. A quick search on the web of Primerica will show a... shall we say... "varied and colorful" view of the company and its business practices.<BR><BR><B><I>"Brian - Team A.I." <teamai@cox.net></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I have a feeling I was one of the first on that list of people he's given<BR>them to call as a character reference. They've called several times,<BR>leaving messages on both my home and cellphones. The home phone I don't<BR>know if I ever gave Ken, but it is a listed number. As far as my cellphone<BR>is concerned, I'm not sure where that number came into play, but they have<BR>been annoying in their frequency of calls, none of which I've answered<BR>(after hearing a voice mail they left on my home phone).<BR><BR>In my experience, it's always customary to ASK a person you are using as a<BR>character reference, and to perhaps give them a call when the hiring process<BR>is in full swing so the call from the employer for this type of information<BR>isn't unexpected and doesn't catch you off guard. I was never asked to be a<BR>character reference, and in all honesty I would refuse for the
simple fact<BR>that I don't know him well enough to be any kind of character reference, and<BR>my contact with him has been very limited.<BR><BR>I am very disappointed on his actions for doing this to more than one<BR>person, and it does indeed appear that he neglected to ask permission to use<BR>anyone as a character reference, and for the fact that Primerica is so<BR>aggressive in their tactics that as a secondary portion of the conversation<BR>they try to sell you something like an insurance policy. Give me a freaking<BR>break already. Knowing now that he's done this, I don't see it being a bad<BR>idea at all to report this to Geocaching.com. It's no better than trying to<BR>harvest e-mail addresses from the main site in an effort to sell penis<BR>enlargement pills.<BR><BR>Brian<BR>Team A.I.<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "SquishyGecko" <SQUISHYGECKO@YAHOO.COM><BR>To: <LISTSERV@AZGEOCACHING.COM><BR>Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:18 PM<BR>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Use
of Geocaching.com for commercial solicitation<BR><BR><BR>> This morning I received a telephone call from someone named Ron Adams,<BR>> stating that he was doing a "character reference" for Highpointer. After<BR>> returning the call and informing Mr. Adams that I had never met<BR>Highpointer,<BR>> he proceeded to state that Highpointer had told Mr. Adams that I was<BR>married<BR>> with two children, then attempted to sell me an insurance policy.<BR>><BR>> Not only do I consider this a gross misrepresentation on the part of Mr.<BR>> Adams, but a gross violation of my privacy by Highpointer. I will be<BR>> contacting Geocaching.com to determine what violations of Geocaching.com<BR>> regulations may have been committed by Highpointer. I strongly encourage<BR>> anyone else who receives such a call to ask Mr. Adams to add you to his<BR>"Do<BR>> Not Call" list, and then report the incident to Geocaching.com.<BR>><BR>><BR>> ---<BR>> Outgoing
mail is certified Virus Free.<BR>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).<BR>> Version: 6.0.691 / Virus Database: 452 - Release Date: 5/26/2004<BR>><BR>> ____________________________________________________________<BR>> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR>><BR>> Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>> http://www.azgeocaching.com<BR>><BR><BR><BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>http://www.azgeocaching.com</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><p>
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