[Az-Geocaching] Explanation for Coyote1022/Gordon
Brian - Team A.I.
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Thu, 20 May 2004 00:17:01 -0700
Ok, since I haven't done this in awhile, I'll bite.
Your first mistake was trying to tell people how to cache with only a newbie
take on the area or knowledge of what is what. Granted, you have 750+
finds, which means you should know better, being around Geocaching for
awhile. If you've followed this listserv at all, you know that cachers
around here don't like being told what to do. In the right tone, it is
taken well, and I have no idea in what tone yours came across. Rather than
posting an archive note in that situation, forcing an admin to take a look
and possibly make a decision based on your ASSUMPTION, which would be wrong.
Whatever happened to a courtesy e-mail rather than a very public
notification that you BELIEVE something is so, when in fact it was not?
You make a statement that you 'catch more flies with sugar than sh*t'.
Doesn't that conflict just slightly with your own admission of the actions
you took in posting a public archive note based on your belief? It seems to
me the sh*t, as you so eloquently put it, was slung by posting that, than
the proverbial honey of a courtesy e-mail, in private. Now, if you realized
that what you did was a mistake, was an apology ever issued to try and
smooth the waters? If so, great. If not, perhaps that's why opinions of
you aren't exactly regarded in any positive light. I had never heard about
this little drama until something was said on this listserv.
I really hope you Gay Aldrich comment was a mere typo, because if it wasn't,
it really shows your true character, resolving yourself to calling someone a
name that wouldn't have been repeated past 5th grade, if at all. Also, I'm
not sure why you lumped Gale and RandMan in that bunch. It sounds like you
had a falling out with Gale (yes, it ends in le, not il), but I'm not sure
what kind of situation you could have found yourself in with Rand. He's a
very nice guy, and a person who doesn't let physical limitations keep him
from turning heads at some of the caches he's gone for. While he hasn't
summited Humphrey's Peak on crutches, he's floored me with what he has done,
and I have a great deal of respect for the guy. Guy just plain drives me
nuts with his cache hides, but that's what I like about the guy (ok, and the
computer stuff we've talked about in e-mail).
My .04 cents. .92 remaining (by my count).
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: "red ryder" <rhodopogon@yahoo.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:54 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Explanation for Coyote1022/Gordon
> Hi-
> I can clear this up for you, Coyote1022/Gordon:
> I suggested that some caches be archived on account of
> their location (this was back in, like, January or
> February of this year, I think). As I am/was new to
> the area, it looked to my unlearned eye that the
> caches in question were located within the Phoenix
> Mountain Preserve. Within the day, I realized
> (rather, had someone point out to me, and quite
> rudely, I might add!) my error and I promptly removed
> my "please archive" logs. For the error of having
> suggested that a cache be moved (the horror!), I have
> been made something of a persona non grata to the
> geocaching folks. I guess they forgot that you can
> catch more flies with sugar than sh*t. Anyway-- on
> the basis of all this (i.e., an unfortunate mistake on
> my part, followed more or less immediately by a
> retraction), Gail [is it "Gail" or "Gale"?]
> automatically discounts the well considered opinion I
> offered to an open question.
>
> So, dear lad- let this be a lesson to you: don't ever,
> EVER suggest that a cache should be archived, or else
> Gail and RandMan and Gay Aldrich will be displeased
> with you. Now that I think of it, that's not really
> much to be concerned about... I know it hasn't
> changed my life or geocaching activity.
>
> Ryde on-
> rr
>
> --- Gordon L Flatt <glflatt@mpsaz.org> wrote:
> > RandMan,
> >
> > I too am on the outside, but to timid to admit
> > it FIRST! Second I can
> > do.......... LOL
> >
> > Gordon
> > Coyote1022
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > Behalf Of RAND
> > HARDIN
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:53 PM
> > To: AZ-Geocaching
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Should I archive this
> > cache?
> >
> >
> > Guy and Gail,
> >
> > Okay, for those of us who are not aware of the
> > inside information, what's
> > the "Red Ryder" story? Upon pulling up "Red
> > Ryder's" profile, all it shows
> > is that this cacher is from Anaheim, California; and
> > it appears from a quick
> > search of the finds that this cacher only caches in
> > California.
> >
> > What are we missing...or am I the only one who's
> > on the outside here?
> >
> > Rand (RandMan)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gale
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:21 AM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Should I archive
> > this cache?
> >
> > Yes, and for that reason alone, do not archive
> > it.
> >
> > GUY ALDRICH wrote:
> > Look WHO is saying to Archive it! Does that
> > name look familiar???
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "red ryder"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Should I archive
> > this
> > cache?
> >
> >
> > Archive.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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