[Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating

Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:02:52 -0700

I agree with Trisha. I think it is better to be conservative than
misleading.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
Trisha
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:54 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating

The terrain rating is supposed to be for the toughest part of the
approach.

I don't know about a 3, but it is NOT handicapped accessible if the
wheelchair bound person can only get to within 50 feet.

Why don't you just change it to a 2 or 1.5 and be done with it? There
are a handful of physically handicapped (wheelchair,
cane/mobility/short of breath) people who cache and can only do "1's".
They expect it to be easy enough for wheelchair access.

A 2 or 1.5 won't scare people off, just explain it in the description.

Think about how you would feel if you were sitting in a wheelchair and
tried to get your cache. Get it? I'm sure you would feel bad if you
unintentionally ruined a handicapped cacher's day by the misleading
rating. It's hard enough for some of them to get out at all. Of
course, they are probably reading the logs and would realize that the
rating is incorrect anyway.

OK, 'nuff said.

take care,
Trisha

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:06:51 -0700 (PDT), GUY ALDRICH wrote:

>
> Your car should do the climbing!Then it's 400 feet of
> flat road to within 50 feet of the cache!The last 50
> feet is a bushwack but ,it still no climb!So most of
> it is a 1,now where the cache sits,it's a 3, uneven
> unpaved the point is if I gave it a 3 rating people
> would think you have climbing to do!I could do this
> one in flipflops,for most other mountain trails I wear
> good hiking boots!Now if you don't read the directions
> and just bushwack,then it's a tough climb!!
>
> Guy
> --- Trisha <trisha@brasher.com> wrote:
> > Hey Guy,
> >
> > How'rya doin'?
> >
> > Ahem....(butting in) Did you read Andy's note?
> > Clayjar's rating system
> > is not required, of course, but it does seem to be
> > somewhat of a
> > standard being used.
> >
> > Let's see. 1 = Handicapped ACCESSIBLE, terrain is
> > likely to be PAVED,
> > is relatively FLAT, and less than 1/2 mile.
> >
> > 2 = Terrain is generally along marked trails, there
> > ARE NO STEEP
> > ELEVATION changes or heavy undergrowth, less than 2
> > miles.
> >
> > Hm.
> >
> > I haven't been to this cache, but from the logs
> > (some mention a short
> > steep climb) it seems like bumping the terrain
> > rating to at least a 2
> > might be more accurate and therefore avoid any
> > confusion/complaints in
> > the future. Pretty easy. Or, if there is a way to
> > get within 50 feet
> > without the steep climb, maybe a 1.5.
> >
> > Think. 50 feet might as well be 50 miles when you
> > are wheelchair
> > bound. "Accessible" logically means someone in a
> > wheelchair can
> > physically reach out and grab the cache. (/butting
> > in)
> >
> > take care,
> > Trisha "Lightning"
> > Prescott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:25:41 -0700 (PDT), GUY
> > ALDRICH wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Andy IF you go the right way,you can use a
> > wheelchair
> > > to get within 50 ft of the cache!You must print
> > out
> > > and follow the cache page directions!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Andrew Ayre <andy@britishideas.com> wrote:
> > > > According to Clayjar's rating system, 1 star for
> > > > terrain = wheelchair
> > > > accessible. Although the rating system is a
> > > > suggestion, was it suitable for
> > > > a wheelchair? :)
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:
> > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of
> > > > SquishyGecko
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:38 PM
> > > > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise
> > > > (OUCH!)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So on second thought, I decided to run up there
> > this
> > > > afternoon and grab it.
> > > > Just got back from having a cactus surgically
> > > > removed from my butt.  Oh
> > > > yeah, that's an easy one.  No trail, no parking,
> > and
> > > > a whole bunch of loose
> > > > rocks and jumping cactus.
> > > >
> > > > As a non-native to Arizona, I'm making the
> > following
> > > > decrees:
> > > >
> > > > Never, ever will I again attempt to hike where
> > there
> > > > is no trail.
> > > >
> > > > Never, ever will I attempt a non-urban Graldrich
> > > > cache.
> > > >
> > > > Never, ever will I go up on a mountain for a
> > "quick
> > > > grab" without a damn
> > > > first aid kit, or at the least a pair of
> > tweezers.
> > > >
> > > > Off to pick the kid up from school and whine
> > some
> > > > more about how my butt
> > > > hurts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "GUY ALDRICH" <graldrich@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:24 AM
> > > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > : This is an EASY hike with fantastic views,I'm
> > very
> > > > : surprised this cache has had so few
> > visitors!You
> > > > can
> > > > : drive 90% of the climb!Try it,you'll like it!
> > > > :
> > > > : Guy
> > > > :
> > > > :
> > > >
> > >
> >
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