[Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics
Trisha
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Fri, 05 Sep 2003 09:38:37 -0700 (MST)
I'll support a boycott and not renew my Charter membership at
geocaching.com, if that helps you guys keep the stats at
azgeocaching.com. I'll just have to limit myself to 100 on the watch
list! (The main reason I spent the $30).
Keep us posted on what's going on, Brian and Jason. And I certainly
support your decision to not have to do more work for free. You guys
do a great job, but I think I speak for almost everyone when I say
that we realize it must be a pain sometimes to maintain the site, and
why have more pain w/o any gain?
Thanks for all your hard work, (and I would like to JUST ONCE see my
numbers over 200 (206) if you ever get the stats "fixed"!)
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 09:03:39 -0700, Brian Cluff wrote:
>
> I would prefer to just get them let us contiunue to do business as
> usual.
> They HAD to have made more money on the existance of
azgeocaching.com
> than the money they can claim they were loosing if we weren't
around,
> not to mention that azgeocaching.com off loads a heck of a lot more
> bandwidth than it's taking up by crawling the official site.
> There have also been a ton of people that wanted to donate to us in
> the
> past that we just asked to get a membership instead. Without
> geocaching.com's data our site is very boreing. Jason and I feel
that
> it's in their best interest in let us continue on as usual as I feel
> those same people will probably just not renew their membership in
> protest of us getting shut down potentialy costing geocaching.com
> thousands.
>
> I would be open to starting our own deal, but thats just way more
work
> and responsibility that I would like to deal with, and it probably
> doesn't have the numbers of people behind it to potentially make it
> profitable, so it would be a TON of time that just HAD to be put
into
> it. Don't get me wrong, I love doing azgeocaching.com, but there
are
> some days that I just don't even want to look at it. I wouldn't want
> to
> run a site that absolutly required maintainace every day without a
> little something extra to make it worth my while, and help pay the
> bills. Spreading out the site is a good idea, but it doesn't get rid
> o
> the fact that the site, however small it is would still need to be
> maintained, and having to do a couple of things a day is almost more
> annoying than haveing to do a bunch of things. Thats always been
the
> nice thing about azgeocaching.com, that for the most part, it's been
> self maintaining. We could spend as much or as little time as our
> schedules dictated, and this time of the year it's been a real
> blessing
> to not HAVE to babysit a website.
>
> Anyway, I guess it would take some further discussion.
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
>
> Brian LaFrance wrote:
> > I'm all for starting our own open source version specific to
> Arizona...if we
> > could get enough resources together, it might be kind of fun to
try.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
> Jason
> > Poulter
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:33 PM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics
> >
> >
> > maybe we should just dump geocaching.com all together and write our
> own
> > site!!! ;)
> >
> > or at least a distributed database that everyone and anyone could
> setup
> > and access all over the world with open source code etc...
> >
> > jason
> >
> >
> >
> > Brian LaFrance wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Maybe we could figure out a way to distribute the workload across
> several
> >>servers. I also have a server that I could run the code on. It
may
> be
> >>something where we could each query a range of cache numbers, user
> ID's, or
> >>some other way of breaking the load up. Not sure if that would
help
> >
> > though.
> >
> >>We all may end up banned from scraping data off Geocaching.com...it
> could
> >
> > be
> >
> >>a fun project to try though.
> >>
> >>Brian
> >>Team AZEvil
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
> >>bcasteel@cox.net
> >>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:35 PM
> >>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics
> >>
> >>
> >>That's a good idea, in theory. However, not every cacher can write
> code
> >>like the Snaptek guys, nor can everyone understand how to run a
> script of
> >>this nature. If they gave me the code, I'd gladly throw it up on
my
> server
> >>to run, and all would be happy. :)
> >>
> >>Brian
> >>Team A.I.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Bob Renner <renner001@yahoo.com>
> >>>Date: 2003/09/04 Thu PM 05:34:29 EDT
> >>>To: Arizona Geocaching List <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> >>>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics
> >>>
> >>>Jason,
> >>>
> >>>I realize this would be a total rewrite of your
> >>>statistics gathering software, but it might be a way
> >>>to lessen the load it puts on the geocaching.com
> >>>website. Instead of crawling the entire data base, go
> >>>to the individual profile pages of Arizona geocachers,
> >>>and get the information from the "User Stats" pages.
> >>>Anyone who wants to have their information included
> >>>into the AZgeocaching web page, would have to tell you
> >>>to include them in your list. You could still include
> >>>the logs of others on the caches within Arizona.
> >>>
> >>>Another, approach would be for you to provide the code
> >>>for Arizona geocachers to run on their own computers
> >>>to get their basic information from geocaching.com and
> >>>then automatically forward this to you to be compiled
> >>>into one database. The advantage of this would be
> >>>that the load on geocaching.com would be from multiple
> >>>IP addresses and only when a user knows his/her stats
> >>>need to be updated (i.e. when they have found or
> >>>placed a new cache).
> >>>
> >>>Just a thought that might help get around any blocking
> >>>you are experiencing.
> >>>
> >>>Bob Renner
> >>>
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