[Az-Geocaching] Boy, Did I Mess Up!

Loran Wilcox listserv@azgeocaching.com
Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:35:42 -0700


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MessageThese are the guidelines for the Manistee National Forest here in =
Michigan. Thought I would pass these on to AZ to show that not all =
managers are against geocaching. But as rule 5 states "Caches are =
strictly forbidden in a Wilderness area" which seems to be a national =
decision.

Loran (Team Sand Dollar)

The Officials at Manistee National Forest have granted permission for =
Geocaching to continue within their borders provided we follow the =
guidelines supplied below. It is important that we make sure that any =
geocaches inside Manistee National Forest are in compliance with these =
guidelines. If you have a cache, or know of a cache, that is not in =
compliance with these guidelines, please contact MiGO with details about =
the cache. Please include details on which guideline the cache violates =
so that we can help to contact the owner and provide suggestions for =
bringing the cache into compliance, or to work with Manistee and the =
geocache listing sites to retrieve and archive the cache in question.=20
  1.. Respect the trails that exist, and do not create any new ones.=20
  2.. Do not overwhelm the Forest with our presence and maintain a limit =
of 30 caches in the Manistee National Forest.=20
  3.. Ensure the caches are not a "permanent" item. Move your cache at =
least 300 yards away from the previous location at least once annually.=20
  4.. Make sure that you properly maintain your cache! Looted or =
abandoned caches become litter.=20
  5.. Caches are strictly forbidden in a Wilderness area.=20
  6.. Do continue to enjoy and promote both Geocaching and the Manistee =
National Forest!=20
  7.. As always; "Cache In, Trash Out"!=20



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Team Tierra Buena=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:52 PM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Boy, Did I Mess Up!


  Does anyone know if other geocachers in other states are feeling the =
pinch on their public lands?=20

  From what I've read on the Groundspeak forums, many state and local =
agencies are working with either individuals or organized Geocaching =
groups to  create policies permitting Geocaching. There is at least one =
county in Colorado that is a notable exception, but where people are =
making the effort, they seem to be making progress.

  You must keep in mind though that Arizona, unlike anywhere else I'm =
aware of, has individuals actively calling for the curtailment or =
prohibition of Geocaching on public lands.

  Steve
  Team Tierra Buena

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These are the guidelines for the <FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Manistee National Forest here in =
Michigan. Thought=20
I would pass these on to AZ to show that not all managers are against=20
geocaching. But as rule 5 states "Caches are <B>strictly forbidden =
</B>in a=20
Wilderness area" which seems to be a national =
decision.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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size=3D3></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Loran (Team Sand Dollar)<FONT =
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<DIV><BR>The Officials at Manistee National Forest have granted =
permission for=20
Geocaching to continue within their borders provided we follow the =
guidelines=20
supplied below. It is important that we make sure that any geocaches =
inside=20
Manistee National Forest are in compliance with these guidelines. If you =
have a=20
cache, or know of a cache, that is not in compliance with these =
guidelines,=20
please <A href=3D"mailto:info@mi-geocaching.org">contact MiGO</A> with =
details=20
about the cache. Please include details on which guideline the cache =
violates so=20
that we can help to contact the owner and provide suggestions for =
bringing the=20
cache into compliance, or to work with Manistee and the geocache listing =
sites=20
to retrieve and archive the cache in question. </DIV>
<OL>
  <LI>Respect the trails that exist, and <B>do not </B>create any new =
ones.=20
  <LI>Do not overwhelm the Forest with our presence and maintain a limit =
of 30=20
  caches in the Manistee National Forest.=20
  <LI>Ensure the caches are not a "permanent" item. Move your cache at =
least 300=20
  yards away from the previous location at least once annually.=20
  <LI>Make sure that you properly maintain your cache! Looted or =
abandoned=20
  caches become litter.=20
  <LI>Caches are <B>strictly forbidden </B>in a Wilderness area.=20
  <LI>Do continue to enjoy and promote both Geocaching and the Manistee =
National=20
  Forest!=20
  <LI>As always; "Cache In, Trash Out"! </LI></OL>
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  <A title=3Dteamtierrabuena@earthlink.net=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 24, 2003 =
2:52=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Boy, Did I=20
  Mess Up!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Does anyone know if other geocachers in other states are feeling =
the=20
  pinch on their public lands?<SPAN class=3D018453221-24012003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D018453221-24012003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D018453221-24012003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
  color=3D#0000ff>From what I've read on the Groundspeak forums, many =
state and=20
  local agencies are working with either individuals or=20
  organized&nbsp;Geocaching groups to </FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=3D"Book =
Antiqua"=20
  color=3D#0000ff>create policies permitting Geocaching. There is at =
least one=20
  county in Colorado that is a notable exception, but where people are =
making=20
  the effort, they seem to be making progress.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D018453221-24012003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
  color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D018453221-24012003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
  color=3D#0000ff>You must keep in mind though that Arizona, unlike =
anywhere else=20
  I'm aware of, has individuals actively calling for the curtailment or=20
  prohibition of Geocaching on public lands.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D018453221-24012003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
  color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D018453221-24012003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
  color=3D#0000ff>Steve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D018453221-24012003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
  color=3D#0000ff>Team Tierra =
Buena</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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