[Az-Geocaching] Geocaching.com administrator questions whether my museum caches are really "geocaches"
Team Cache-Quest
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:01:32 -0700
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Ken,
I personally really like your museum caches. It think they are well =
thought out and reasonably challenging to complete the 'find'. They =
make a good virtual cache and they sure are a nice break from the summer =
heat in Arizona. =20
One of the kicks I've been on lately is asking what would the community =
or local authorities think of these caches. From their perspective I =
think these caches also get two big thumbs up. The Museum staff that I =
talked to sure didn't mind.
I guess you could over do a good thing. I wouldn't want all caches to =
be like these. There probably doesn't need to be one on every corner, =
but I don't think you've over done it.
Have Fun,
Jerry (Cache-Quest)
----- Original Message -----=20
From: ken@highpointer.com=20
To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching.com administrator questions =
whether my museum caches are really "geocaches"
Hello Geocachers,
While traveling out of the state in the past two weeks, I stopped and =
visited two small historical museums, one in southeastern Utah and the =
other in northwestern Oklahoma. I made virtual geocaches from these =
museums, similar in style to the six that I have currenlty active in =
eastern Maricopa County.
Geocaching administrator erik88l-r approved these two new virtual =
geocaches, but upon doing so he sent me this note, which I have pasted =
below:
User erik88l-r has contacted you with the following message:
Hi,
I posted your caches, but have to ask before others attack you for it =
in the forums - are all these museums really "geocaches"? Don't get me =
wrong, I love museums, but is a GPS required to find them? I just don't =
want to see you going overboard on something that might result in a =
backlash. Sometimes too much of a good thing results in that reaction. =
;) My suggestion would be to hide a physical cache near such places in =
the future - that way people will visit the area without questions about =
whether something should or should not be a virtual cache.
All the best,
erik - geocaching.com admin
I replied to Erik that these museum geocaches are very popular among =
geocachers in Arizona. It is g! reat to introduce people to places =
where they can learn about local history and bring the entire family for =
little or no cost, and they are particularly great to visit on hot =
summer days because they are air-conditioned.
It is true that you don't need a GPS to find these museums, but I =
argue that one can find many virtual caches without a GPS, because they =
are typically large items like statues or historical markers that are =
out in plain view in public places. Also, what is wrong with having =
some virtual geocaches where a GPS is not mandatory - not everyone has a =
GPS, so this opens up our activity to people who can't afford to own a =
GPS.
Also, I disagree with his suggestion to place a physical geocache near =
these museums. Most of these museums are located in highly visible =
areas where there is no good place to put a physical geocache.
What do Arizona geocachers think about the comments of Erik and =
myself? Should I continue to create virtual geocaches at museums? =
Remember, these are not the easiest caches to complete fully - typically =
I have six or seven questions that requires one to visit every part of =
the museum, and as many of you are aware, some of the answers are not =
easy to find.
Ken (a.k.a. Highpointer)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ken,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I personally really like your museum =
caches. =20
It think they are well thought out and reasonably challenging to =
complete the=20
'find'. They make a good virtual cache and they sure are a nice =
break from=20
the summer heat in Arizona. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One of the kicks I've been on lately is =
asking what=20
would the community or local authorities think of these caches. =
>From their=20
perspective I think these caches also get two big thumbs up. The =
Museum=20
staff that I talked to sure didn't mind.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess you could over do a good =
thing. I=20
wouldn't want all caches to be like these. There probably doesn't =
need to=20
be one on every corner, but I don't think you've over done =
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have Fun,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jerry (Cache-Quest)</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dken@highpointer.com=20
href=3D"mailto:ken@highpointer.com">ken@highpointer.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 26, =
2002 1:01=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] =
Geocaching.com=20
administrator questions whether my museum caches are really =
"geocaches"</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT color=3D#000000>Hello =
Geocachers,</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT color=3D#000000>While traveling out of =
the state in=20
the past two weeks, I stopped and visited two small historical =
museums, one in=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D37740">sou=
theastern=20
Utah</A> and the other in <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D37738">nor=
thwestern=20
Oklahoma</A>. I made virtual geocaches from these museums, =
similar in=20
style to the six that I have currenlty active in eastern Maricopa=20
County.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P>Geocaching administrator <FONT face=3DVerdana><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/profile/default.asp?A=3D4285">erik88l-r=
</A>=20
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial>approved these two new virtual geocaches, =
but upon=20
doing so he sent me this note, which I have pasted below:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT color=3D#000000>User erik88l-r has =
contacted you=20
with the following message:<BR><BR><EM>Hi,<BR></EM></FONT></FONT><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT color=3D#000000><BR><EM>I posted your caches, =
but have to=20
ask before others attack you for it in the forums - are all these =
museums=20
really "geocaches"? Don't get me wrong, I love museums, but is a =
GPS=20
required to find them? I just don't want to see you going =
overboard on=20
something that might result in a backlash. Sometimes too much of =
a good=20
thing results in that reaction. ;) My suggestion would be to =
hide a=20
physical cache near such places in the future - that way people will =
visit the=20
area without questions about whether something should or should not be =
a=20
virtual cache.<BR><BR>All the best,<BR>erik - geocaching.com=20
admin<BR></EM></FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
color=3D#000000><BR>I=20
replied to Erik that these museum geocaches are very popular among =
geocachers=20
in Arizona. It is g! reat to introduce people to places where =
they can=20
learn about local history and bring the entire family for little or no =
cost,=20
and they are particularly great to visit on hot summer days because =
they are=20
air-conditioned.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT color=3D#000000>It is true that you =
don't need a=20
GPS to find these museums, but I argue that one can find many virtual =
caches=20
without a GPS, because they are typically large items like statues or=20
historical markers that are out in plain view in public places. =
Also,=20
what is wrong with having some virtual geocaches where a GPS is not =
mandatory=20
- not everyone has a GPS, so this opens up our activity to people who =
can't=20
afford to own a GPS.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P>Also, I disagree with his suggestion to place a physical =
geocache near=20
these museums. Most of these museums are located in highly =
visible areas=20
where there is no good place to put a physical geocache.</P>
<P>What do Arizona geocachers think about the comments of Erik and=20
myself? Should I continue to create virtual geocaches at =
museums? =20
Remember, these are not the easiest caches to complete fully - =
typically I=20
have six or seven questions that requires one to visit every part of =
the=20
museum, and as many of you are aware, some of the answers are not easy =
to=20
find.</P>
<P><EM><STRONG>Ken</STRONG></EM> (a.k.a.=20
<EM><STRONG>Highpointer</STRONG></EM>)</P>
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