[Az-Geocaching] YAALWP! (Yet Again Another Long-Winded Posting!)

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Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT)


Steve, as has been said, WHAT a great idea! I am going to try and implement that "mentor" mentality for my area. I often see newbies in the logs of my own and the area's caches that I am watching.
What is nice about this is that hopefully, the more experienced cachers can offer assistance to the new folks without coming across as being "elitist". 

Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott



On Sun, 22 September 2002, "Team Tierra Buena" wrote:

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<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT face="Book Antiqua">One of the issues 
I've been wrestling with as we approach The Meeting on Friday is how the growth 
of Geocaching increases the probability of things happening on cache hunts that 
I think we'd all agree are undesirable. I'm talking about everything from 
trailblazing to failing to properly re-hide a cache.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT 
face="Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT face="Book Antiqua">I think that many 
times these types of things happen not out of malice but out of inexperience. I 
can think of many things that Judi and I did or didn't do on our earlier cache 
hunts that still make me shudder with embarrassment. One of the things one gains 
from experience is the realization that you once goofed, but you're sure not 
going to goof that way again in the future.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT 
face="Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT face="Book Antiqua">But more beginners 
means more goof potential. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT 
face="Book Antiqua">Here's a couple of stats I just pulled of azgeocaching.com: 
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT face="Book Antiqua">There 
were 209 teams with one AZ cache and no out of state finds. Besides those, there 
were 478 more teams</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT 
face="Book Antiqua"> with 5 or fewer AZ finds AND 5 or fewer Out-of-State finds 
(trying to eliminate experienced cachers who find one or two while vacationing 
here). Now, even if we assume that half of the finds in the second group are 
locationless caches based in Arizona (Yellow Jeep Fever, Carousel, etc.), that's 
still over 400 "Neocachers" that are or have been caching in our state. As a 
point of comparison, I think when we started caching about a year ago, finding 
your first cache automatically put you into the top 300 in 
Arizona.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT 
face="Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT face="Book Antiqua">Unlike many of 
you, I can't even remember how we learned about Geocaching. But how many of you 
can remember how (or when) you learned about azgeocaching.com? (Brian and Jason 
excepted, of course.) Or the list server?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT 
face="Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT face="Book Antiqua">I'll bet that the 
subscribers to this list server (counting the untold numbers of you who read and 
don't post) have hidden somewhere between a quarter and a half of all the caches 
in the state. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT 
face="Book Antiqua">Here's what I propose (and it wouldn't surprise me if some 
of you are doing it already): Every time you get a notification that someone's 
logged one of your caches, check out the team name. If you don't recognize it, 
go to the log page and check out their find count. If they're Neocachers (let's 
say five finds or fewer), send 'em an email! Welcome them into the fold, thank 
them for finding (or hunting) your cache, let them know about azgeocaching.com, 
invite them to the listserv, and offer to help them with any questions they 
have. If they wrote about anything in the log that seems as though they were 
struggling, mention it to them and offer to help them out with it. Send them 
your email address, so they don't have to go back through geocaching.com. 
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT face="Book Antiqua">(If you 
want, check out their other finds first, and email those cache owners to see if 
they've beaten you to it, but it's probably better if they get two or three 
welcomes than none.) In other words, become a Geomentor. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT 
face="Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT face="Book Antiqua">I'd love to have 
us able to tell the land managers on Friday that this is one of the things we do 
to promote responsible Geocaching. Please let me know what you 
think.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT 
face="Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT 
face="Book Antiqua">Steve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=683393303-23092002><FONT face="Book Antiqua">Team Tierra 
Buena</FONT></SPAN></DIV></div></HTML>
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