[Az-Geocaching] We need more difficult geocaches, not fewer

[Ford, Denny]

I agree with the statement of disagreeing with the 24 hour rule.  Have noticed quite a few cachers on the list server
that will go out and try to find it for the owner if they will be in the area.  I have had trouble checking on my urban
caches very quickly due to time constraints, with work, kids, family.  As a caching community we are able to help each
other out to verify existence of caches.
 
One good example, if RIP was claimed as a no find, would Larry be expected to go out to the cache site, personal
experience and the other logs, I would not try that in a four wheel drive, let alone hiking to the cache in the dead of
Summer(115 degrees).
 
Well that is my take on this subject,
 
Denny

-----Original Message-----
From: Highpointer [mailto:ken@highpointer.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:50 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] We need more difficult geocaches, not fewer



Feedle writes:

A Geocacher in California I had the pleasure of having coffee with after meeting them at a remote cache site said that
people should use a "24-hour rule" when placing caches. If you cannot be at the cache site in 24hours after somebody
posts a "can't find" log OR after recieving noticefrom somebody to remove your cache, you shouldn't place it. I think
it's a good rule: if you place a cache someplace in Utah and you're retired (or work at home) so there's nothing
stopping you from driving up to Utah and retriving it on short notice, okay. If you can't be where you've placed the
cache the next day, you probably shouldn't place it. If there's no way you could take a day off work to truck up there
and get it, it probably shouldn't be placed.

I disagree with the above proposal.  This would discourage most of us from ever placing any hard caches, or caches that
are not very close to home.  For example, one of my favorite caches is Table Top
<http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=13825> Mountain, a cache atop a desert mountain peak that requires
a full day trip for most people to ascend.  It's harder than most other caches in Geocaching.com, and thus it has logged
only two finds in four months.

However, if someone reports to me on Sunday night that they couldn't find it, then am I supposed to take Monday off work
to drive there and hike up the mountain?  What if it's over 110 deg. F outside? (this is a remote desert peak which
could kill you if you try to hike it in very hot weather).  Usually I have not only most of my weekdays occupied with
work during the day and social and recreational activities in the evenings, but I also make plans for most weekends as
well.  Am I supposed to give up the rest of my life to maintain my geocaches?  I'm far too young to retire, and I have
other interests besides geocaching.

Also, what would happen if I am out of town on vacation, and I'm not scheduled to be home for a week or more?  

I believe we need more harder-to-get-to geocaches in a variety of places.  A 24-hour rule would mean that we would only
be able to place easy caches close to home, and we already have more than enough of those.

Highpointer






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